Please help with cherry sales!

[JimiLL]

I am new to bringing wood to be milled, and I had a couple of questions.

First, I have a lot of standing cherry that is very big (up to 28") and strait. How would I go about telling if the wood is veneer quality or not??

Id like to know these things so the saw mill cant try to pull one on me.

 

[captainsteep]

cherry

first of all if i were you i would get a private forester consultant and have your trees appraised then you can get a idea of the money its worth, I am cutting some cherry right now 38 to 50 inches on the stump and its bringing some times 8 dollars foot export the saw logs are low right now 6to800 a thousand not to good. now to answer the ? look for cat eyes split stumps mean red rot bumps on the stem anywhere drop the value fast. frost lines, in grown bark, your best bet is the forester dont get ripped off,because then people like you will never sell your timber again so peolpe like me have a go job to cut. be careful cherry is very valuable. good luck. cap'n

 

[Gypo Logger]

first of all if i were you i would get a private forester consultant and have your trees appraised then you can get a idea of the money its worth, I am cutting some cherry right now 38 to 50 inches on the stump and its bringing some times 8 dollars foot export the saw logs are low right now 6to800 a thousand not to good. now to answer the ? look for cat eyes split stumps mean red rot bumps on the stem anywhere drop the value fast. frost lines, in grown bark, your best bet is the forester dont get ripped off,because then people like you will never sell your timber again so peolpe like me have a go job to cut. be careful cherry is very valuable. good luck. cap'n

I hear your area produces the best cherry in the world. Cherry is fun to cut, but can split easily if the double top they are famous for, hit the ground wrong and split from crown to butt. Which you undoubtably know already.
So here's what I do with a valuable stem.
Gypo

 

[captainsteep]

cherry

nice cherry, we top the cherry or take one limb out. kane pa. here where i work around is the black cherry capital of the world has some of the best around and most volume. nice to cut.

 

[385XP]

nice cherry, we top the cherry or take one limb out. kane pa. here where i work around is the black cherry capital of the world has some of the best around and most volume. nice to cut.

we do that here with walnut. We have walnut here like you guys have cherry there.our cherry is kind crappy here though but 2 years ago it was binging good money on the saw logs

 

[385XP]

I am new to bringing wood to be milled, and I had a couple of questions.

First, I have a lot of standing cherry that is very big (up to 28") and strait. How would I go about telling if the wood is veneer quality or not??

Id like to know these things so the saw mill cant try to pull one on me.

I would deffinently get a forester a saw mill will definely low ball you if they get a chance. But be carefull with the forester to cause some times the can be dishonest too. Remeber you only get one chance to do a timber sale right.veneer trees are the really nice trunks that are just about perfect. hope this helps you some. also id get refferences from logging companys and foresters so you can see what kind of work they do and if the land owners are happy with what they did.

 

[Ramblewood]

please help with cherry sales

nice cherry, we top the cherry or take one limb out. kane pa. here where i work around is the black cherry capital of the world has some of the best around and most volume. nice to cut.

I spent a lot of time in Kane and lived a while in Ridgway - the cherry mills were called "cherry mafia" .

 

[Gypo Logger]

I haven't cut much walnut, maybe 50 nice ones in my time.
Here's some pics.
Gypo

 

[385XP]

I haven't cut much walnut, maybe 50 nice ones in my time.
Here's some pics.
Gypo

We have a lot of those around here. Ive cut jobs that had nothing but walnut its nice to have 3 or 400 walnut trees layed out in the landing . Whats the chain for?Ill have to try to get some pictures up on here .

 

[Gypo Logger]

We have a lot of those around here. Ive cut jobs that had nothing but walnut its nice to have 3 or 400 walnut trees layed out in the landing . Whats the chain for?Ill have to try to get some pictures up on here .

The chain was just added insurance against butt shatter in case I left a stupid dutchman. Lol
Ya, please post some pics. The walnut where I was cutting is pretty well in it's northern most range. I like how it looks purple when you first cut it, then it turns a nice brown right after.
Gypo

 

[bluestem]

I grew up in a town in central Iowa with a company that veneered Walnut, it was amazing the piles they had stacked ready to cut, never realized how much money was laying on the ground there!

 

[Ramblewood]

I grew up in a town in central Iowa with a company that veneered Walnut, it was amazing the piles they had stacked ready to cut, never realized how much money was laying on the ground there!

They have to get rid of it before the warm weather because the logs will split into quarters when the sun hits them . The Japanese used to be big buyers and the Italians are now players in the walnut market . If they aren't buying, it gets sawn into lumber and can go fairly cheap .

 

[385XP]

The chain was just added insurance against butt shatter in case I left a stupid dutchman. Lol
Ya, please post some pics. The walnut where I was cutting is pretty well in it's northern most range. I like how it looks purple when you first cut it, then it turns a nice brown right after.
Gypo

Ill see what i can do about the pictures. Can i take paper pictures and put them on disk. I have a few pitures of my self my dad brother uncles and nephew with walnut trees. One of my uncles was a walnut exporter from the late 40s untill he died in 2001. I like cutting walnut a lot but when it gets really humid in the summer you get what they call walnut burn so you have to keep washing you arms and face off otherwise youll have blisters all over.

 

[385XP]

I grew up in a town in central Iowa with a company that veneered Walnut, it was amazing the piles they had stacked ready to cut, never realized how much money was laying on the ground there!

That mill wouldnt be bacon veener would it.

 

[bluestem]

That mill wouldnt be bacon veener would it.

That's the one! Pretty big operation. I think most of the stuff they deal with at this plant was Walnut. Pretty neat to see how they plane the veneer from the big logs.

They have to get rid of it before the warm weather because the logs will split into quarters when the sun hits them . The Japanese used to be big buyers and the Italians are now players in the walnut market . If they aren't buying, it gets sawn into lumber and can go fairly cheap .

They have a pretty sizable log yard there, instead of getting rid of the logs in summer they use a large sprinkler system to keep the logs wet until they are ready to use them.

 

[385XP]

That's the one! Pretty big operation. I think most of the stuff they deal with at this plant was Walnut. Pretty neat to see how they plane the veneer from the big logs.



They have a pretty sizable log yard there, instead of getting rid of the logs in summer they use a large sprinkler system to keep the logs wet until they are ready to use them.

My uncle used to pump a lot of wood trough there.Im from dubuque the mill used to be here along time ago.

 

[Ramblewood]

Ill see what i can do about the pictures. Can i take paper pictures and put them on disk. I have a few pitures of my self my dad brother uncles and nephew with walnut trees. One of my uncles was a walnut exporter from the late 40s untill he died in 2001. I like cutting walnut a lot but when it gets really humid in the summer you get what they call walnut burn so you have to keep washing you arms and face off otherwise youll have blisters all over.

A lumber yard I worked at used to provide sawdust to a horse farm and if any walnut shavings were in the mix, the horses hoofs would swell up and cause big problems . I produces a chemical called something like "juglan ?" and it kills other trees that try to grow to close . If you burn walnut in a woodstove, you don't want to let the smoke in the house by mistake . Tulip has similar properties but I don't know if they have the same chemical in them .

 

[bluestem]

A lumber yard I worked at used to provide sawdust to a horse farm and if any walnut shavings were in the mix, the horses hoofs would swell up and cause big problems . I produces a chemical called something like "juglan ?" and it kills other trees that try to grow to close . If you burn walnut in a woodstove, you don't want to let the smoke in the house by mistake . Tulip has similar properties but I don't know if they have the same chemical in them .

The misses has 3 horses, I cut about 9 walnuts out of the pasture because they were hanging over the corn field bad. We ended up fencing off the area I cut in for that very reason, saw chips all over the ground, that was 3 years ago. We will take the fence down now, anything left will have incorporated back into the soil by now. There are alot of things out there that can kill a horse!!