Ported 880 7 vs 8 pin with 30" bar

[Deets066]

I wanna see the stock 661 beat the ported one!

Gotta be the same wood and same chain though.

 

[SAWMIKAZE]

I just went to five guys burgers and fries and ate a double cheeseburger with A1 , BBQ sauce and bacon..it was so good im too distracted to even read all this BS.... stock saws beatin ported ones ?..awesome day on AS.

 

[blsnelling]

I just went to five guys burgers and fries and ate a double cheeseburger with A1 , BBQ sauce and bacon..it was so good im too distracted to even read all this BS.... stock saws beatin ported ones ?..awesome day on AS.

You're really behind the times. This was so yesterday!

 

[big t double]

I just went to five guys burgers and fries...

Fantastic establishment...I wish they served beer.

 

[SAWMIKAZE]

Fantastic establishment...I wish they served beer.

Real talk.

Ive been there many times but never got A1 , BBQ and bacon on one..its unreal.

 

[KenJax Tree]

Bagger Dave's has good burgers and beer

 

[big t double]

Real talk.

Ive been there many times but never got A1 , BBQ and bacon on one..its unreal.

Next time I go I'll try it out...I'm usually just a ketchup mustard bacon cheese guy. A1 and barbecue...it could work. Thanks.

 

[Deets066]

I think there is a five guys by where I'm workin at, never been there but sounds like I might have to try it out

 

[Jimbo209]

On a longer bar ,if the saw is strong enough to pull .404 loaded ,i recommend it ,at least in softwoods ,it oils the bar a lot better on my saws ,and stays sharper longer when working ,especially if woods a little dirty ,i am not talking about trying to get the best cookie times by no means ,the bigger drive sprocket on .404 speeds the chain to about a 7.5 pin i would call it on 3/8 also being a tad larger .

I wonder exactly the same thing.
All these tests are don for the first 3-4 cuts which is all well and good but what about speed at the end of the tank once chain looses inital edge or a used chain HAND filed

WHO puts on a new chain after 3 cuts (of medium wood)
what about a test like this
cut in clean wood run through one of these and cut again. Something like = clean-dirty-clean to simulate a full tanks work in 5 cuts
https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&...4gncx_udh46NZnzmQ&sig2=KxOHjz2OphalY0co30H3Og


MY POV
When I first got my 660 fitted with 36RS@24" and I was blocking anything from dusty skidded wood through to clean day old white gum I would know when I was getting near the end of a tank as the chips would diminish towards dust,might be able to getaway with a tank and a half.

 

[Trx250r180]

I wonder exactly the same thing.
All these tests are don for the first 3-4 cuts which is all well and good but what about speed at the end of the tank once chain looses inital edge or a used chain HAND filed

WHO puts on a new chain after 3 cuts (of medium wood)
what about a test like this
cut in clean wood run through one of these and cut again. Something like = clean-dirty-clean to simulate a full tanks work in 5 cuts
https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CC8QtwIwA2oVChMIjpH6gI6tyAIVw3amCh2VIgoz&url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaDNTsv9qx4&usg=AFQjCNEMbp6SI4OlJ4gncx_udh46NZnzmQ&sig2=KxOHjz2OphalY0co30H3Og


MY POV
When I first got my 660 fitted with 36RS@24" and I was blocking anything from dusty skidded wood through to clean day old white gum I would know when I was getting near the end of a tank as the chips would diminish towards dust,might be able to getaway with a tank and a half.

I think a lot of the .404 staying sharper longer is the top plate angle ,a reg chain is around 30 degrees ,so the outer corner is more pointed i would call it which is more fragile ,the .404 is closer to 20 degrees off the roll which makes a stronger outer corner ,being less pointy ,the cutter links are a little bigger also ,kind of like the tortoise and the hare theory ,it may be a little slower ,but will keep going longer without a touch up ,so more work can get done in less overall time .

 

[porsche965]

One way to find out It would take some cutting but sure would be interesting to see. I tend to agree with the angle theory, among other things. I file to 25 degrees all the time regardless. If you have the power it cuts faster.

 

[DexterDay]

Any videos of the two 661's that were compared?

Yeah. There was videos


There was also videos of two 460's (ported) that beat that muff mod 661 and tied the ported 661. Ported saws rock!!! lol

As for the ported saw not beating a muff mod saw? That's ridiculous in every aspect.

And furthermore... We ran my 661 against Brads at my last GTG. You'd still get beat. Sorry buddy...

Hey SquareFile? I bet you have a 346 that would turn a 661's head upside-down; )

And for the record, you'll never see anyone rock a saw in a race that wants to win. Consistent cuts come when 100% of your cutter are always working.

 

[RedFir Down]

I just went to five guys burgers and fries and ate a double cheeseburger with A1 , BBQ sauce and bacon..it was so good im too distracted to even read all this BS.... stock saws beatin ported ones ?..awesome day on AS.

The acronym in red is the key point here.

 

[mdavlee]

Stock saws beating ported saws have happened over the years.

Seems the 661 isn't going to win many races but is a fine work saw.

 

[gunnusmc03]

Is that due to the mtronic limiting its potential?

 

[mdavlee]

Is that due to the mtronic limiting its potential?

Yep. Racing is usually in small wood and more rpm helps. Some are turning 16k plus.

 

[gunnusmc03]

Has anyone ever tried hacking the mtronic module?

 

[blsnelling]

No one has ever disabled the rev limiter in a coil, let alone mess with an MTronic coil. Sure would be nice if we could tune them!!!

 

[Stihl 041S]

Fuddruckers.

 

[mdavlee]

No one has ever disabled the rev limiter in a coil, let alone mess with an MTronic coil. Sure would be nice if we could tune them!!!

Yes it would. Maybe this winter I'll get one and see how much work it will be to do a carb swap and coil swap. Wish we could just buy the coil and carb combo here.