Metals406
Granfodder Runningsaw
You have any pics of the back and sides of your machine?.. I might be able to come up with something for you? Can you fab?
If not, I can probably hook you up.
If not, I can probably hook you up.
Pulling wood out of the bush, lots of quesions.
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sawinredneck
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I can fab, and have a machine shop a block from the house that I have free rein in.
I will try and get pics tomorrow.
I rented one of the Toro version of that...like the one someone posted with teh bucket...what a machine. I rented it to trench my ditch for my OWB insulated pipe....was raining like crazy that day, thing went anywhere I wanted with those tracks. Trenched over 100ft in like 45 minutes....then went looking for things to do with it as I had it rented for half a day....trenched some gutter extensions..then cleaned out a huge ditch of mine. I took it back and they said they had a bucket for it also...man I could have used that thing on my ditch! I ran that thing for a few hours...when to fill it up with diesel to bring it back...used less than a gallon! I coudln't believe it.
I would buy one of those used in minute....and with that grapple hook..man what a log puller.
I would buy one of those used in minute....and with that grapple hook..man what a log puller.
sawinredneck
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Pics and a heck of a story to come later, BAAAAADD DAY today!!! Mini's rule, but God help you if you sink one!!!!!
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I am waiting for pics
and the story.. I almost got my dozer hung up down in a holler once.. I was scared bad.. I have plenty of friends with big tractors.. but they all have cabs with GLASS in them.. and My skidding trails are not wide up high.. I managed to use the blade to pick up the front of the tracks so I could put rocks under it.. Finally managed to waller my way out on my own.
and the story.. I almost got my dozer hung up down in a holler once.. I was scared bad.. I have plenty of friends with big tractors.. but they all have cabs with GLASS in them.. and My skidding trails are not wide up high.. I managed to use the blade to pick up the front of the tracks so I could put rocks under it.. Finally managed to waller my way out on my own.
treemandan
Tree Freak
Yeah, I would advise against that BUT : Did you really think it would make it or were you pushing it? Maybe get some narrow strips of plywood for such adventures? I don't know but you did describe some nasty quagmire earlier just how bad is it?
Get that thing stuck on a low stumps so we can all see the riot. I hope she is allright.
for sawenredneck. get a billet truck. its a 2 ton truck. cut off the bed to the frame and build the biggest bunks you can. put a boom at the front. take another rearend form a half ton standard and bolt it under the boom. you will have to hook up some linkeig to the pto on your transmission. its not hard. the rear end then becomes a whinch. it will not only skid loggs it will load the trees in four foot sections on the truck. you can even pull a trailer.
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Some pics.
I overloaded the mini then hit a soft spot and buried it!!I raised the front and shoved some Cedar trees under the front tires, no workie!! I tried pulling it out with the grapple, no workie!! I forgot the shovel:monkey: and dug out as best I could with an axe, no workie!! I finally used two "keeper" ratcheting tie downs tied together with everything els and got it out. Batteries on the camera where going dead, and I was solo, so thepics suck. Sorry!!
The ruts:
The small load:
The back of the machine as requested:
Tree to the truck:
The worksite of the day:
I overloaded the mini then hit a soft spot and buried it!!I raised the front and shoved some Cedar trees under the front tires, no workie!! I tried pulling it out with the grapple, no workie!! I forgot the shovel:monkey: and dug out as best I could with an axe, no workie!! I finally used two "keeper" ratcheting tie downs tied together with everything els and got it out. Batteries on the camera where going dead, and I was solo, so thepics suck. Sorry!!
The ruts:
The small load:
The back of the machine as requested:
Tree to the truck:
The worksite of the day:
Metals406
Granfodder Runningsaw
Some pics.
I overloaded the mini then hit a soft spot and buried it!!I raised the front and shoved some Cedar trees under the front tires, no workie!! I tried pulling it out with the grapple, no workie!! I forgot the shovel:monkey: and dug out as best I could with an axe, no workie!! I finally used two "keeper" ratcheting tie downs tied together with everything els and got it out. Batteries on the camera where going dead, and I was solo, so thepics suck. Sorry!!
The ruts:
The small load:
The back of the machine as requested:
Tree to the truck:
The worksite of the day:
You wanted a 'basket' to carry bar oil and saw gas right? Something you can remove from the little loader?
sawinredneck
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Nope, just a scabard, I am running back and forth enough that it's easy to stop and fill the saw up.
Metals406
Granfodder Runningsaw
What about a VHMW scabbard mounted to the side then? You can buy them to mount on your truck headache rack.
treemandan
Tree Freak
Yeah, plywood. Of course you walk out first to pick the line then load up some ply and drive out. You should be able to cut 3 strips out of one sheet. I use thin plywood 3/8, 1/4.
A bad day is when you see blood or actuall property or equipment destruction.
Did you say you used ratchet straps to winch it out?
A bad day is when you see blood or actuall property or equipment destruction.
Did you say you used ratchet straps to winch it out?
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sawinredneck
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I thought about that, the problem I ran into was hanging the saw verticle, the bar would get into the tire hanging on the outside, even the 18". Not much room on the inside for anything!!
What I am thinking about now is two 2x8"s run along the outer rail and bolted on. Cut out for the bar then the powerhead is towards the controls and the bar hanging to the back?
sawinredneck
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Laugh all you want, but yes!! 30k# tie downs, and a lot of luck!
The plywood just takes up so much room though!! I had walked it all, even before I drove the truck out there. But it's a crap shoot at best! You are just riding on top of the grass/brush no matter where you go, break through that, the day is over!
That's just nasty terrain! Does it ever freeze up?
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treemandan
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Oh I ain't laughing, it was pretty ingenious
Keep the ply laying on the deck of the trailer and put the loader on top of it. 2 sheets can get you 24 feet of plywood roadway, more if all you need is 1 foot wide strips. Just enough for the tough spots. Besides, What are your options at this point?
Maybe make a rack on the trailer sides out of the way to hold it.
sawinredneck
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Yeah, I could see four pieces along the side of the trailers rails!! GREAT idea there, thank you!
Metals406
Granfodder Runningsaw
The scabbards' I'm finding online, start at 140 bucks, all the way to 250 bucks! Yikes.:jawdrop:
I see a good mounting point on your machine too! It's on the left-hand side of where you stand on the back. Because of the price of the manufactured ones, go ahead and make one out of two 2X6's, and a piece of 1/2" plywood.
Start with your piece of 1/2" ply, place your bar w/chain on the board and trace around it (give yourself about 1/4" more for clearance). Make the scabbard depth, where it will either sit on the dogs, or the case... If you're worried about it beating on the saw, tack weather-stripping or chunks of inner tube to the top of the wood pieces.
Cutout the trace line with a jigsaw, sawz most, or whatever you got.
Cut a 2X6 (or 2X8, whatever you picked) that matches the plywood in width and length... Screw and glue the first two together. I like poly glues--like Gorilla glue.
Decide where you want your mounting points in relation to the machine. I imagine 1/4" carriage bolts would work well. To countersink the heads, first drill a larger whole, at the required depth, to get the heads just below--or flush with the wood... Then drill all the way through with a 3/16" bit. Using a smaller bit will allow you to drive the bolts through, giving them a tight fit... A dab of glue in the hole wouldn't hurt either.
Glue and screw your second 2X? on, and you're ready to mount to your machine. I would think having the power-head of the saw facing out, would give you more room to stand on the machine.
I see a good mounting point on your machine too! It's on the left-hand side of where you stand on the back. Because of the price of the manufactured ones, go ahead and make one out of two 2X6's, and a piece of 1/2" plywood.
Start with your piece of 1/2" ply, place your bar w/chain on the board and trace around it (give yourself about 1/4" more for clearance). Make the scabbard depth, where it will either sit on the dogs, or the case... If you're worried about it beating on the saw, tack weather-stripping or chunks of inner tube to the top of the wood pieces.
Cutout the trace line with a jigsaw, sawz most, or whatever you got.
Cut a 2X6 (or 2X8, whatever you picked) that matches the plywood in width and length... Screw and glue the first two together. I like poly glues--like Gorilla glue.
Decide where you want your mounting points in relation to the machine. I imagine 1/4" carriage bolts would work well. To countersink the heads, first drill a larger whole, at the required depth, to get the heads just below--or flush with the wood... Then drill all the way through with a 3/16" bit. Using a smaller bit will allow you to drive the bolts through, giving them a tight fit... A dab of glue in the hole wouldn't hurt either.
Glue and screw your second 2X? on, and you're ready to mount to your machine. I would think having the power-head of the saw facing out, would give you more room to stand on the machine.
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