Question for the Stihl 070 experts...

[Rudolf73]

With all the 070 Stihl copies going around is there any sure way of telling if the saw is genuine or not by looking at it? For instance the chinese cope may have subtle design differences like like name plates etc. The reason I am asking is that there is a new 070 avertised on ebay (Australia) and the seller is insisting that it is genuine because it says "made in Germany" on it. This may be so, but I have dealt with one of the companies who make these 070's in china and the husky copy I got off them also said "made in Sweden" which shows that it doesn't mean anything.

Here is the link anyways... Stihl 070 105cc chainsaw

The seller goes on to list the serial number, but in my case the fake husky also had a "husy" serial number on it.

 

[MechanicMatt]

Rudolf I would be weary of this saw only because he states there is no such thing a "cheap chinease knock-offs" and believe me there are. That is a lot of money to be gambling with.

 

[Rudolf73]

Rudolf I would be weary of this saw only because he states there is no such thing a "cheap chinease knock-offs" and believe me there are. That is a lot of money to be gambling with.

That is exactly right and I have first hand experience with cheap chinease knock-offs. Another seller also has a ms381 copy listed and that is on $600+ now... crazy.

 

[MechanicMatt]

Notice how he mentioned that stihl opened a plant there in 2008?? Do you really think they still made that saw in 2008??? He is trying to hide something!!

 

[homelitejim]

I would bet that is a chinese copy of a Stihl 070. The German Stihl 070 is listed at 106cc according to this.
Model Profile: 070 AV


Plus look at the mix ratio 25-1 very common in Chinese saws

 

[Rudolf73]

I would bet that is a chinese copy of a Stihl 070. The German Stihl 070 is listed at 106cc according to this.
Model Profile: 070 AV


Plus look at the mix ratio 25-1 very common in Chinese saws

Yeah and I wonder why the chinese never copied the AV model, because it sure needs it.

 

[homelitejim]

I wouldn't pay $100 for a brand new chinese 070, maybe $50.

 

[MechanicMatt]

Id pay 100, it is 100+ cc's. It would be fun at least a day. Shoot I blew three times that this afternoon at the mall with my wife and that was NO fun.

 

[pioneerguy600]

Ask him what carb it has on it?
Pioneerguy600

 

[homelitejim]

Id pay 100, it is 100+ cc's. It would be fun at least a day. Shoot I blew three times that this afternoon at the mall with my wife and that was NO fun.

You have to remember that is 105 chinese cc's so with the cc exchange rate it is more like 50cc's

 

[MechanicMatt]

You have to remember that is 105 chinese cc's so with the cc exchange rate it is more like 50cc's

:msp_laugh: I don't care who you are, that right there is funny:msp_laugh:

 

[Rudolf73]

Ask him what carb it has on it?
Pioneerguy600

Yep I'll do that.

You have to remember that is 105 chinese cc's so with the cc exchange rate it is more like 50cc's

Hahaha, rep sent!

 

[ckelp]

i wish i had the cash to buy one and pull it apart and set it next to the real thing..

 

[Rudolf73]

i wish i had the cash to buy one and pull it apart and set it next to the real thing..

$400 they are direct from china including shipping... I guess you are paying for all the metal in it.

 

[ckelp]

one thing i did spot is the S/N looks way too long to be a stihl..

 

[homelitejim]

Yep I'll do that.



Hahaha, rep sent!

thank you. Also the chain pitch is 3/8 .050, the 070 only came with 404 or 1/2 .

 

[Rudolf73]

thank you. Also the chain pitch is 3/8 .050, the 070 only came with 404 or 1/2 .

I didn't even notice that and you are right. The interesting thing with these chinese saws is that they actually come with genuine (as far as I can tell by using them) stihl chains even the fake husky's.

 

[Banshee]

It sure does look like a real 070. I'd like to see that one up close.

 

[pioneerguy600]

All the visuals check out ,it looks genuine.The orange color does look rather light but that can just be the lighting, camera or fading from storage.
Pioneerguy600

 

[dave k]

Some pics of a genuine 070 I bought it about 2 yrs ago and it was made 1994.