Questions about Baileys Woodsman Pro chain

[Diesel JD]

DOes anyone use this stuff? I've used the 30LP on my 009 and was ikmpressed by its speed and apparent quality. Anybody run WP? Like it? Think it's bad? And the big burning question is does anybody know who makes it for them...? Thanks!

 

[NWCS]

i have a loop of 30RC on my echo CS-8000 with a 20" bar. stuff cuts great, keeps right up with my usual stihl chain. does not stretch like Oregon stuff. stays pretty tight on the bar like Stihl chain. i am impressed with it. i have not had to sharpen it yet so i cant comment about that aspect. in alder, fir and maple the stuff is fast and very smooth cutting. throws great looking chips. even been holding up to the light coat of sand left on my skidded logs.
(brushing the sand off with bare hands only does so much)

my conclusion: im buyin more thats for sure! i love it.


btw, i beleive its Carlton chain. at least the 30RC. but dont quote me on that fact.

 

[Lobo]

DOes anyone use this stuff? I've used the 30LP on my 009 and was ikmpressed by its speed and apparent quality. Anybody run WP? Like it? Think it's bad? And the big burning question is does anybody know who makes it for them...? Thanks!

Carlton

It is rebadged/boxed Carlton chain

www.sawchain.com

 

[pallis]

IMO it's better than Oregon chain. I have a new 20" loop of Carlton (Woodsman Pro 38RC) on my 7900 and a new loop of the Oregon 73 LG on my 372. They are both smooth, but the Carlton seems to pull through a little better. The Oregon needed sharpening right out of the box.

I don't think all the Woodsman Pro chain is Carlton. The Baileys flyer says the 33XC uses the Oregon 75LG links.

 

[jwvert]

Just bought 30RC 60 and installed on new bar for my 034. Cut very well and with a little file work came right back to an edge after 2 tanks cutting oak. Good quality vs value.
JW

 

[Lobo]

IMO it's better than Oregon chain. I have a new 20" loop of Carlton (Woodsman Pro 38RC) on my 7900 and a new loop of the Oregon 73 LG on my 372. They are both smooth, but the Carlton seems to pull through a little better. The Oregon needed sharpening right out of the box.

I don't think all the Woodsman Pro chain is Carlton. The Baileys flyer says the 33XC uses the Oregon 75LG links.

You are probably right, but most of it is Carlton now.

 

[zombywoof]

Definitely Carlton chain

Most all of the WP chain is Carlton. Bailey's sells a lot of Carlton chain, bars, sprockets, etc.... They sell an Oregon style replaceable nose tip from Carlton that is very good also.

 

[tonka]

I've been using woodsman pro chain and like it much better than oragon chain. Does't stretch anywhere near as much as oragon. Seems to hold an edge as good or better than oragon and starts out sharper out of the box.

 

[pbtree]

I think it is the best bet for the money - I have been running it for a few years now and I like ti better thatn Oregon 72...

 

[jokers]

Interesting, Oregon sells more chain and bars than anyone else in the world by a long shot, yet the consensus in this thread, and on this site, seems to be that most Oregon products are junk.

Looks like pack mentality, which isn`t exactly objective.

Russ

 

[Chris J.]

Russ, I'd guess that Oregons impressive sales is related to having their product on the shelf at a lot of retail stores such as Lowes, Home Depot, Northern Tools, etc. I confess that I recently bought an Oregon bar and chain package from Northern Tools, even though I knew that I could get better quality for a better price from Bailey's. Bailey's is getting my next order, once I sort out exactly what I need.

 

[jokers]

Knot Whole,

Oregon was leader in sales long before retailers like Lowes, Home Depot, Northern Tools, or Walmart even sold bars and chains.

I know that Bailey`s is pushing the cheap Carlton they pick up and the rebadged Woodsman Pro, but what do they brag about in their catalogs? Being the largest retailer of Oregon products.

Order from Bailey`s, they are good people.

Russ

 

[Stumper]

You aren't going to get me on the "Oregon is junk" bandwagon-that doesn't match my experience. On the other hand, I am a Carlton fan and think that the value for money with Carlton chain is superb. Most Woodsman Pro chain is Carlton chain but not all-Some is Windsor( I Know that it belongs to Blount along with Oregon but it is still a different product) some of it may be yet anopther maker's product. One chain is an Oregon cutter on a Windsor chassis.-Whether that is a Bailey's specced product or whether Baileys bought a huge lot of a boo boo I know not.

 

[Lobo]

Interesting, Oregon sells more chain and bars than anyone else in the world by a long shot, yet the consensus in this thread, and on this site, seems to be that most Oregon products are junk.

Looks like pack mentality, which isn`t exactly objective.

Russ

No where in this particular thread has anyone called Oregon chain and products junk. Members have simply stated that they prefer the WP/Carlton over the Oregon for various reasons. I don't think that qualifies in any way as calling Oregon junk !

 

[pbtree]

Oregon is in deed the furthest thing from junk. They make excellent products, regardless of where you buy it.

I just happen to feel that for the money, the Bailey's 30RC is a better deal, and performs just as well if not better, than the Oregon 72 series...

 

[pallis]

I missed the whole Oregon is junk thing. Thanks for drawing it to my attention Jokers. :Eye:

 

[jokers]

No where in this particular thread has anyone called Oregon chain and products junk. Members have simply stated that they prefer the WP/Carlton over the Oregon for various reasons. I don't think that qualifies in any way as calling Oregon junk !

Lobo et al,

Noone has come out and openly stated in this particular thread that Oregon products are junk, but the statements I will quote show nearly everyone comparing something else to an Oregon product and the Oregon always comes out second best. hmmmmm..........

.......does not stretch like Oregon stuff.

Doesn`t everyone know that chain stretches when it`s dull?

.........i have not had to sharpen it yet so i cant comment about that aspect.

IMO it's better than Oregon chain.............The Oregon needed sharpening right out of the box.

Ya gotta admit that these statements allude to a quality problem.

I've been using woodsman pro chain and like it much better than oragon chain. Does't stretch anywhere near as much as oragon. Seems to hold an edge as good or better than oragon and starts out sharper out of the box.

There we go with the stretch again. Oh yeah, it starts out sharper too!

I think it is the best bet for the money - I have been running it for a few years now and I like ti better thatn Oregon 72...

Atleast PB may be actually running a significant amount of chain and refers to the value for the cost.

Then there is this statement which suggest that Oregon`s sales volume is probably due to being in home centers, lol.

Russ, I'd guess that Oregons impressive sales is related to having their product on the shelf at a lot of retail stores such as Lowes, Home Depot, Northern Tools, etc. I confess that I recently bought an Oregon bar and chain package from Northern Tools, even though I knew that I could get better quality for a better price from Bailey's.

KW did not miss the opportunity to state that the Oregon is of a lower quantity now did he?

Then PB comes back and qualifies his statement

I just happen to feel that for the money, the Bailey's 30RC is a better deal, and performs just as well if not better, than the Oregon 72 series...

Are you still saying that there is not a pervasive sentiment on this forum that Oregon products are at the bottom of the heap? If I were a newbie with no experience to sway me otherwise, that is exactly the opinion that I would garner from reading these threads. That`s all fine and good, everyone is entitiled to be able to voice their opinions, just funny how the majority of the world doesn`t agree with the microcosm that exists here.

Russ

 

[Lobo]

I view it as chevy sedan vs Buick sedan, both get you there allright, but the Buick gives me more comfort and tingle.

 

[tonka]

My statement was based on my usage. And what I found is that the woodsman/carlton chain didn't strech anywhere near as much as oragon. They both cut about the same for me, but out of the box the woodsman is sharper. Is one chain stretching less than the other that big of deal, not really. They both cost about the same so for my money I'll spend more time cutting wood and less time adjusting my chain tension. McDonalds probably sells more hamburgers than anyone else- does that make them the best?

 

[tonka]

Woodsman does start out sharper because it is sharpened after the chain is assembled. Oragon is sharpened before the chain is assembled and in the handling/manufacturing prossess the cutters are bumped around and takes the fine edge off of them.