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Ekka said:
Cool, is all good.

I pay over here $18 an hour for a noob who knows jack, but I try to get them on a day rate of $150 net.

For better guys it goes up to $25 and hour or $200 a day.

For climbers anywhere between $250 to $400 a day (contract rate), but they have their own saws, ropes and gear. Also, that's why I climb most my own chit coz $400 is pretty over the top for many of the jobs we do.

I used to have a guy I got in a lot, he was $275 a day, and at that price I didn't mind him having easier days, some days he wouldn't have to climb anything as it was all felling work.

damn, those are attractive starting wages! USD $'s too! are you taking taxes and stuff off or are your staff considered sub contractors?
 
Hang on, Aussie dollars

If I get them as staff not contractors then tax has to come out. But if they contract then they get the lot.

Also with staff here, you have to pay 9% of their gross (before tax) into a superannuation fund for them.
 
oops i stand corrected on the currency...lol still, nice that some gets taken off for SuperAnnuation funds! :givebeer:
 
Yeah, and that's on top of their wages not from it.

So if you paid some-one $500 gross for the week another $45 would go into their super fund.
 
My groundman is probably the highest paid in the USA. I pay him $37.50 an hour plus full medical for his family, $685.92 a month. However, he has no other benefits...no vacation, sick leave, or paid holidays. It is covered in the hourly wage.

He is also my son-in-law, so I pay him this high wage to support my daughter.:cry:
 
Koa Man said:
My groundman is probably the highest paid in the USA. I pay him $37.50 an hour plus full medical for his family, $685.92 a month. However, he has no other benefits...no vacation, sick leave, or paid holidays. It is covered in the hourly wage.

He is also my son-in-law, so I pay him this high wage to support my daughter.:cry:

Wow, a lot of money for health care costs, though I did meet someone last year in LA that was paying over $900 a month.
 
tahufford61 said:
I am in need of experience tree cutters and I was thinking of between $15.00 and $20.00 range per hour. Is this a decent wage or is it too high or too low.
Please let me know.

Thank you
Tim
What do you mean by "tree cutters?" Loggers, climbers, fallers, firewood cutters, bucket operators, etc? Around here, all of the above make a different wage yet all could be labeled "tree cutters."
 
Rediculas

Tree climbers in Chattanoogaa are underpaid at $10/15 only real money is made by freelance climbing. depending on location 20 is resonable with beniffits. Tree companies need to get it together ya greedy *******s. the climbers are takin the risk.:angry2: :deadhorse:
 
Welcome to the site M.W., the late Sam Kinison said, about starving Eithiopeans, "You live in a freaking desert, move!!!" And so it is, go where the money is, I drove a 1000 miles and took a 7 hour ferry ride, left behind lots of stuff, everything we had into a pickup, a blazer and a 6'x12' U-haul trailer. So I could make a little over double my wage and work a 61/2 hour day instead of an 8, also, and no treehuggers, no cleanup, away from the city and all the bs there. Look around, look far.
 
Clearance, You want to move MA, USA....we could use an experienced Line clearance guy, top pay for someone of your expertise......the only thing is we do not accept an ISA Utility Cert. as a qualification to work around the wires.....so don't put your ISA Utility Specialist Certification on your resume...



www.dillontree.com
 
diltree said:
Clearance, You want to move MA, USA....we could use an experienced Line clearance guy, top pay for someone of your expertise......the only thing is we do not accept an ISA Utility Cert. as a qualification to work around the wires.....so don't put your ISA Utility Specialist Certification on your resume...



www.dillontree.com
Dill, I don't know where you are going with this but I am not utility certified by the ISA, joke that it is, I am a utility arborist, its a trade, like plumber, carpenter, etc, in this province. Besides, I can't come down there, I already got my ass deported from the US for stuff I did here years ago, thanks anyways.
 
foodforests said:
Well yeah, I would consider it an insult, but the self-proclaimed "dittoheads" that listen to Rush Limbaugh seem to revel in the term.
So, no, its not a Hawaiian term.
Brah, is short for Braddah, which is a pidgin way of pronouncing brother. It takes all sorts to make a world, doesn't it?
At least you have formed your reactionary opinions on your own clearance, or at least without the help of Rush Limbaugh, so you've earnt back some of my respect.
Actually, now that I think of it, the entertainment value that you and Rush Limbaugh provide for me are pretty much the same sort of thing. I don't agree with much of what either of you say, but you are both funny *******s.
Food, I was being sarcastic, I don't listen to Rush, don't agree with most of his BS. Just having fun with Ekka, I hope he got it.
 
Just Joking with you Clearance...only someone that has never really put time in around the wires would consider an ISA Utility Specialist Certification as a qualification....I'm with you they should stick with certifying arborists.....We only hire Line Clearance tree trimmers with documented apprenticeship...but I was serious about the Job offer


www.dillontree.com
 
has anyone actually sat down and calculated

In figuring out what pay should be you really have to look at who is actually going to pay. It is not the company whou hires the individual, it is teh customer who buys thier product.

Once you establish thier threshold, then you can work backwards in the math to develop your wage basis.

I can offer my ground people $100 per hour, but if I can't sell a job to a customer then it makes it moot. Doesn't it?

The way I look at it if you are gonna have a truly effective minimum wage, why not make it $25 per hour? If the minimum wage is so effective and important why not make it $50 per hour.

I think the answer is obvious and anyone with a shred of intellecutal honesty or thinking ability will see it.

Here in Vermont no-body pays the minimum wage. Why? Because the market demands that we pay much more. Heck, even McDonalds is paying $9 or more per hour to start.

Every time someone tries to artificially support or suppress prices on anything it fails....the laws of economic nature will always prevent it.

Its like gravity, you don't have to believe it exists but it is still there.
 
tahufford61 said:
In regards to the question that I asked about wages, I am located in central Pennsylvania and most jobs around this area pay around $6.00 an hour for lawn care help, but I am not sure on tree cutters.
whats up there, treecutter
 
I got called tree cutter the other day, and it kinda rubbed me wrong for some reason. But then at the end of the job, the lady comes out and says "That was like watching an artist take down that tree, it was worth the price just to watch" Made me feel a little better.
 
Others say that increasing the minimum wage actually hurts the poor because then businesses will simply not hire entry level positions at all. In Florida we have a 6.40/hr minimum wage, but there aren't too many people trying to support a family on that. If you have very much skills and any education, you can at least get into the 10s, not that that's much. Kinda got off topic, don't know what the payscale is for tree folks here, but we have a lot of owner operated businesses, and the going rates for treework is kinda low compared to what I've seen on AS. Some of the owners have made big bucks but I imagine starting pay rates here are pretty low.
 
anyone can cut a tree

so i would say $15-$20 per hr is more than fair 4 a tree cutter. a skilled arborists who understands the biology of the trees is worth much more like $25per hr or more depending on many things. tree cutters/hacks are chit and do more harm than good. quality never cost more than it saves:rock:
 
Anyone from TX., close to Dallas?

The rate pay I've been told from around here is 18.75/hr. is this close to someone else's pay. Worker's Comp. is included only.
 
Texas

TXtreeman said:
The rate pay I've been told from around here is 18.75/hr. is this close to someone else's pay. Worker's Comp. is included only.
i though everything is bigger in Texas:laugh:well at least the snakes are anyway
 

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