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Rate this guy's milling style
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ive found that rocking back and forth like he does makes for lower quality cut...just my opinion. When i first started CSM I did what he did I believe because my chain was getting dull, and didnt realize that only few boards (4-5 boards at 10 foot) was making the chain dull.
The end product looked OK.
Pretty hairy on the safety side of things, the operators right hand was on a slipping bit of rubber and only inches from the chain at one stage and the feet of the assistant were looking dicey for a while.
I've never used a mill, but if it was just being ripped with the 090 without a mill you'd think that you would be a whole lot quicker.
The chain/bar must need a good going over.
Pretty hairy on the safety side of things, the operators right hand was on a slipping bit of rubber and only inches from the chain at one stage and the feet of the assistant were looking dicey for a while.
I've never used a mill, but if it was just being ripped with the 090 without a mill you'd think that you would be a whole lot quicker.
The chain/bar must need a good going over.
qbilder
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I'm not a CS miller so I don't really know, but that looked like a monkey $%^&ing a football while his buddies held it down. Seeing videos like that sure don't inspire me to run out & get a CSM rig. The guys seem to enjoy what they're doing & that's all that really matters. But they sure make it look awful hard & dangerous.
they need more than hearing protection
from my limited experience alot more
and think about it... will that wood be really be used for anything other than fire wood?
from my limited experience alot more
and think about it... will that wood be really be used for anything other than fire wood?
Sawyer Rob
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It sure doesn't bring back any good memories!!!
SR
SR
I saw a big saw that made little tiny saw dust, Joe.
All the people hes got helping him is scary too. I like to be the only one touching the mill and log unless I am starting a cut. Maybe its just my prefrence but that seems like alot of people to keep track of.
nh-rob
ArboristSite Lurker
I really liked the sound of that big saw once he got it fired up. Not very impresive to watch it cut though. I am guessing the chain must be dull or the rakers set high but I am still a novice at all of this. What do the pros think the problem with the slow cut is?
Rob
Rob
Thanks guy's, some good comments there that some up the situation. If it is OK with you I'll use some of your quotes on another forum.
mad murdock
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Must have been a gubment job, plenty of guys standing around keeping the ground from moving. Seemed to cut a bit slow especially for the saw, looked like an 090. When I mill, I lead the cut with the bar tip at about a 15-20 deg angle and the cut goes way faster.
q-tip jr
ArboristSite Member
almost - but not quite Darwin award wining ....
Daninvan
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Agree with everyone's comments.
I would also add that it seems a bit odd that he was splitting a slab into two thinner ones. I guess they had a reason for it, I would prefer to peel them off the log in their final thickness. I could see in the video that it was difficult to hold it down, that would not be a problem if they were slabbing from the log.
Did not like the fact that they stopped regularly to drive in wedges. I don't think they need to be that close together, and everytime I stop my mill anyways I get a line/gouge in my cut.
One good thing I did see was that they were milling downhill, so gravity was in their favour.
Hopefully they will come over to this forum and learn about milling. I guess most of us probably started off not too differently!
Dan
I would also add that it seems a bit odd that he was splitting a slab into two thinner ones. I guess they had a reason for it, I would prefer to peel them off the log in their final thickness. I could see in the video that it was difficult to hold it down, that would not be a problem if they were slabbing from the log.
Did not like the fact that they stopped regularly to drive in wedges. I don't think they need to be that close together, and everytime I stop my mill anyways I get a line/gouge in my cut.
One good thing I did see was that they were milling downhill, so gravity was in their favour.
Hopefully they will come over to this forum and learn about milling. I guess most of us probably started off not too differently!
Dan
mikeb1079
ArboristSite Operative
it sure looks to me like either their rakers are set too high or their chain is dull. way too much sawdust and not enough chips. i've found out the hard way that if you have to push that hard and/or rock the saw back and forth something is wrong. :msp_smile: looks like me when i first started!
The story behind this is that these guys are members of a woodworking club and they were cutting up a "black heart Sassafras" log for small items at their club.
I have no idea of the experience of the guy driving the mill or even if it is his mill. I worry about these clubs where it is often a case of the blind leading the blind,
I have no idea of the experience of the guy driving the mill or even if it is his mill. I worry about these clubs where it is often a case of the blind leading the blind,
It does kinda look like the blind leading the blind. I've been slow to post a video of me and my old Homelite cause I didn't want to hear all the stuff about PPE. I often mill in short pants and a pair of crocks or even my bedroom slippers. Only thing is the saw dust gets all stuck in the fuzzy stuff in my slippers. I wear perscription polycarbonate glasses and try to remember my ear muffs. I don't own a pair of chaps and never will. I made it through 40 years of tree work and still have both arms and legs. Milling is such a controlled enviroment, that in my opinion, the chapps would be cumbersome enough to create a hazard. Most leg cuts, and cuts in general, I've seen were from smaller saws in close quarters. Once the saw is in a log it's pretty hard for it to go swinging around. I'd be more concerned with having the log chocked solid enough that it can't roll and get crushed or pinned like the video posted here in the past. But, for the record, I'll say wear your PPE. Do as I say, not as I do, Joe.
Bob,
At first I though, cool milling with his mate's right? Then I saw his buddy putting his feet on the log and then I thought, this guy is not working safe! I think you were right on your comment that you didn't think this guy didn't even own or know how to mill. Chain saws are just mean nasty tools when not used properly.
As for when he was milling, seesawing back and forth makes for a poor cut. I always try to keep my mill square across the log, having a sharp chain will definitely help with keeping the mill squared across the log.
Just my 2 cents,
jerry-
At first I though, cool milling with his mate's right? Then I saw his buddy putting his feet on the log and then I thought, this guy is not working safe! I think you were right on your comment that you didn't think this guy didn't even own or know how to mill. Chain saws are just mean nasty tools when not used properly.
As for when he was milling, seesawing back and forth makes for a poor cut. I always try to keep my mill square across the log, having a sharp chain will definitely help with keeping the mill squared across the log.
Just my 2 cents,
jerry-
discounthunter
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first,i would be quite disappointed if that was my first expirience with an 090. fortuneatly its the chain not the saw .probably been cutting all day maybe more with the same chain. milling technique was par for the course given the chain issue. ive used worse techniques,lol.
Even before the milling - it takes 16 pulls to start the saw on the video, and he is already pulling when the video starts so how many before then who knows! The saw needs servicing, the chain needs sharpening and the crowd needs thinning.
