Renting out my chainsaw?

[fishhuntcutwood]

um, if you didnt figure out from my story, im a little slow. what happens when someone tells you to put a wet glove on your face and fall a tree?

I read it as put the glove IN the face, as in the face cut. As the tree falls into the notch, it'll wring your wet glove out.

And we ( a bunch of Stihl guys) pulled the chain on backwards trick to our buddy when he bought his new 55 Rancher. He was, and still is new to saws so it took him a good half an hour to figure out what was wrong.

Jeff

 

[Kate Butler]

Gosh, fella, I'm so sorry but my insurance won't let me loan equipment.

 

[BlueRidgeMark]

A logging company asked me ...

....Though a friend would be the one using it and I trust him with it.

Best way to keep friendships friendly is to keep business businesslike. If your FRIEND needs a favor, do him a favor.

If a BUSINESS needs the use of your equipment, they should pay. After all they ARE earning money with it.

Now, if your friend were not involved, would you even consider doing this?

What if the BUSINESS that asked to borrow it insists that someone other than your friend be the one to use it? (When you are not around to protest.) And then it gets trashed? How is your friend going to feel about it? How are YOU going to feel about your friend, who promised to take care of it but didn't because he got overruled by his boss? If the LOGGING company rents it, THEY get to decide who uses it, and your friend has nothing to say about it. If your FRIEND borrows it, the logging company hasn't got anything to say about it.


DON'T rent it based on the premise that your friend will look after it! Rent it based on the WRITTEN CONTRACT that says the logging company will look after it, return it not later than (whatever date & time), and in the same condition they received it, or they will pay XX dollars in damages.

Or lend it to your friend based on friendship.

Just don't mix the two.

Best way to keep friendships friendly is to keep business businesslike.

 

[Stihl Crazy]

If they can't afford to fix their own saw, then they can't afford to repair yours. I never rent or loan mine. If a homeowner whats a saw I will do the work for him, no charge.

 

[tonka]

I don't ever lend or rent my equipment out. If they want to contract me to do a job for them, fine. If they have been a long-time personal friend, I will offer to do the work for them.

 

[Sizzle-Chest]

I read it as put the glove IN the face, as in the face cut. As the tree falls into the notch, it'll wring your wet glove out.

Jeff

told ya im slow

 

[Gypo Logger]

A good way to get out of lending stuff is to tell the prospective borrower that although you would really like to lend him your saw, you had a dream last night that he borrowed your 046 and he felled a tree on himself and died, so you can't lend him your saw as he's too good a friend and you don't want him dead.
John

 

[Rotax Robert]

Or just give him the saw like gypo did for me....nice 357 xpg

Rotax

 

[Diesel JD]

I gotta agree with BRM. Either lend it to your friend based on friendship or rent it to teh company witha written contract. I have lent out my saws smaller saws that is...if it was to a pro who was a friend, no problem, but I'd be worried about some inexpereinced user realy messing himself up with my 390 or any bigger saws I hope to own in the future,
J.D.

 

[kf_tree]

i have a couple of marky's saw's sitting in my basement........whats their address? i'll ship them out to make a few bucks on the rental.

 

[Tree Sling'r]

now thats funny! i was only joking but I got you telling the truth about how a logger treats his saw! I love hearing stories like that. YOu reminded me of a story, on a fire at crater lake some guys on my crew told me that i couldnt possibly hit the same spot on a stump three times using a falling ax one handed without a glove on and with my eyes closed. well, i knew i could, so i took them up on it. well, after three solid chops, i opened my eyes to find my gloves chopped to pieces all over the stump. Ruthless!

So, do you still cut timber? i checked the map for Ft. Jones, and it looks up nere the oregon california border. is that where you were cutting sugar pine?

Yeah still cut, I have a way's to go before the cancer of the fumes runs me off. Fort Jones is about 45 min south of the border. Around here there is quite a bit of Sugar Pine - it will grow up to around 5000 feet. Nice to work with besides the fact that it is really brittle.
Take Care, Tree Sling'r.

 

[Billy_Bob]

I gotta agree with BRM. Either lend it to your friend based on friendship or rent it to teh company witha written contract. I have lent out my saws smaller saws that is...if it was to a pro who was a friend, no problem, but I'd be worried about some inexpereinced user realy messing himself up with my 390 or any bigger saws I hope to own in the future,
J.D.

No way would I loan my saw to an inexperienced user. That would be mostly for their own safety of course. I would offer to do the cutting myself or advise them to get a pro as was needed.

I like the idea of a written contract. And I can certainly make money doing this. Have contracts, etc.

Just can't overprice or underprice is the thing. If I overprice, then they will see the economy of owning extra saws. If I underprice, then I will lose my shirt.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Perfect!! I was going to recommend this, but it likely wouldn't fly with a company, but with a gypo, your chances are better-
Offer to let them borrow the saw...but you come with it and get to run it.

Actually that was the first thing I thought of, going along with the saw (except watching instead of participating). Maybe learn something, get a few lessons.

But then I asked where they would be working. It will be about an hour and a half away, and will be a normal work day for them. So that means getting up at 4:00 am, 1 1/2 hours to job, 8 hours there in cold rain and wind, then 1 1/2 hours back. Then I thought about my nice warm bed and decided on that option instead. (I know, I'm a chicken! Bwwakk Bwwakk...)

The other option was for me to drive up on my own later in the day. But have you ever asked a logger for directions to a logging job site? Note that a lot of the logging roads around here (thousands of them) have no signs on them. I asked a logging management person with one of the large companies how he found his way around on these roads. He said he got lost all the time! Anyway that would not work because I am not familiar with the area they will be working in, and I don't have a map of all the roads in that area either. So would not be wise for me to go on my own.

If they were working close by in an area I was familiar with, had maps to, etc., then I would pop up there for awhile.

 

[Dadatwins]

This is the only saw I would rent out or let anyone borrow that asks, only requirement is you must drop start it standing straight up, with the trigger handle under your thigh, so far no one has asked again.

http://arboristsite.com/attachment_14106.php

 

[Sizzle-Chest]

what'd ya end up doin biller bob?

 

[Billy_Bob]

I loaned it to him for $15 per day, and my friend's "boss" was complaining that was too much, so I think it is a fair amount.

I looked on the internet and saw some chainsaws renting for around $50 or more per day, but that would include renting to inexperienced users, so they would need to cover abuse, but I don’t need to worry about that as only my friend will be using my saw.

Anyway loggers go through chainsaws like you know what through a goose, sometimes a chainsaw may only last a year. So looking at it that way, a $700 saw would cost $2.69 a day for the saw itself with normal “logger” wear and tear.

So I feel I am being fairly compensated for normal wear and tear, the "boss" has a financial incentive to keep his saws in working order so he will not have to pay the $15 per day (If I were to loan it for free, then why bother getting their saws fixed?), and my friend has a saw in good working order to use for the day. So everybody is happy.

Plus my friend saw me cleaning up my "Stihl" saw, getting it ready for him to use, while I was wearing my "Husky" gloves. He really reamed my you know what for that, told me it was sacrilegious, etc!

And I showed him how to sharpen a square ground chain, so he learned something (they round file square ground chains a lot around here).

 

[Diesel JD]

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And I showed him how to sharpen a square ground chain, so he learned something (they round file square ground chains a lot around here).[/QUOTE]
Billy Bob, I would think that's cause iut takes a lot longer to sharpena sqare chisel chain right...unless you are fast...hey I wanna learn too btw, my next sawchain will be sqaure chisel!

 

[BlueRidgeMark]

I loaned it to him for $15 per day, and my friend's "boss" was complaining that was too much, so I think it is a fair amount.

Yeah, if the boss hadn't complained, you would know you priced it too low!

 

[DanManofStihl]

I dont think I would loan my saw out to a logging crew for less the $50.00 a day I have seen some of the saws that come out of the woods and that are only 9 months old and have had the crap beaten out of them nasty air filters old fuel filters and the plastic looks like they droped a tree on it. It amases me that a company does not have at least 1 or 2 066 magnums. Or equivilant even if they are used to cutting small trees. All of the tree people around here have atleast one or two big ones.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Billy Bob, I would think that's cause iut takes a lot longer to sharpena sqare chisel chain right...unless you are fast...hey I wanna learn too btw, my next sawchain will be sqaure chisel!

Well I have sharpened my chain faster than another person who was using a round file. Although my chain was already sharp and I was just touching it up.

Seems to me half a dozen of one and six of another so far as using a round file or using a double bevel flat file for square ground (time wise).

Anyway here are instructions for square ground sharpening...
http://www.oregonchain.com/tech/ms_manual/ms_06.pdf