Ripped out poplar ( yeah I'm a trolling)

[treemandan]

Just to see what people think about climbing this and roping it down. I posted this in the " pictures of hazzardous trees" thread but it just got lost there. I am trolling for some feedback.
It seems that 3 main leaders have ripped out of this " orange on a toothpick" at the same spot on the trunk.

 

[mckeetree]

Easy with a bucket.

 

[woodchux]

You cant bomb chunks towards the powerline?

 

[woodchux]

Maybe you could lower the pieces out of the nearby pinetree?

 

[treemandan]

Easy with a bucket.

Knew that was coming but I am not sure the bucket would reach it all. I thinks we are looking at 80 feet of tree. Those pines are barely 30 feet.

 

[treemandan]

You cant bomb chunks towards the powerline?

You saw those lines all the way from down south? Good eye. That is what its going to boil down to. I might have to rope a few pieces down. I hope I don't hit anything expensive.

 

[scott t]

Rope the limbs smaller than normal and chunk wood in the open yard.

 

[Slvrmple72]

Can you speedline it? Maybe connected to your Dingo in a primo position? Either way have fun with that one! LOL

 

[treemandan]

Can you speedline it? Maybe connected to your Dingo in a primo position? Either way have fun with that one! LOL

Ooof. you go first.

I guess what I am looking for is some answer to how strong the thing is. I will get it down one way or another. I think there is room to bomb pretty much the entire thing BUT what if there wasn't. If you had no access for big equipment like a crane ( I don't think a bucket would reach the whole tree) and had to rope this this thing - would you? ( ' you' means anybody)
The Dingo only weighs 2000 lbs. I usually use bigger things for anchors.

 

[Slvrmple72]

I agree about the bigger anchors thing but in this case where you are concerned about the structural stability of this tree to handle shock loading you are not going to want to bomb big pieces down so a big anchor will not be as important as an ideally positioned one which is what that 2000# Dingo affords you: Just enough anchor for a speedline in an ideal location(s) to get smaller pieces down. As for your original concern aout climbing it and piecing it down the newer tear outs look nasty but the one to watch out for is the older one. Did you get a good peek inside of it to see the extent of decay? When you do that will answer your question as to how to approach this tree? The bottom of the trunk looks like it s got some dead spots on it too?

 

[ropensaddle]

Ooof. you go first.

I guess what I am looking for is some answer to how strong the thing is. I will get it down one way or another. I think there is room to bomb pretty much the entire thing BUT what if there wasn't. If you had no access for big equipment like a crane ( I don't think a bucket would reach the whole tree) and had to rope this this thing - would you? ( ' you' means anybody)
The Dingo only weighs 2000 lbs. I usually use bigger things for anchors.

I could do it out of my bucket even if it were 85 ' I would set a rope with my silky and tie limbs off small as I have to cut them with the silky if necessary. I remember climbing many trees with defects and not even thinking about them failing but now that I am older I get the chicken syndrome. I still climb dead and many I should not but no more dead pines with peckerwood holes in them twenty five foot below my tip! That tree would likely be fine but there is the what if and caution combined with experiance is a better route we know you will find a safe solution

 

[ropensaddle]

Me sees a nice woodsy area to slam that sucka down! Looks like it may even knock down a dead tree having a two fer!

 

[treemandan]

I agree about the bigger anchors thing but in this case where you are concerned about the structural stability of this tree to handle shock loading you are not going to want to bomb big pieces down so a big anchor will not be as important as an ideally positioned one which is what that 2000# Dingo affords you: Just enough anchor for a speedline in an ideal location(s) to get smaller pieces down. As for your original concern aout climbing it and piecing it down the newer tear outs look nasty but the one to watch out for is the older one. Did you get a good peek inside of it to see the extent of decay? When you do that will answer your question as to how to approach this tree? The bottom of the trunk looks like it s got some dead spots on it too?

So you are saying if I go up there and start bombing limbs out there might be potonential for the tree to fail. Like the limbs that are left are balnacing the thing? When I say bomb I mean no lowering right?

 

[treemandan]

I could do it out of my bucket even if it were 85 ' I would set a rope with my silky and tie limbs off small as I have to cut them with the silky if necessary. I remember climbing many trees with defects and not even thinking about them failing but now that I am older I get the chicken syndrome. I still climb dead and many I should not but no more dead pines with peckerwood holes in them twenty five foot below my tip! That tree would likely be fine but there is the what if and caution combined with experiance is a better route we know you will find a safe solution

Always the " what if " . Thanks for the vote of confidence. If you are thinking the whole thing can be dropped from the ground there is no way. House and power lines, shed, grove of dogwoods are all within 20 feet of this thing. I have more room towrds the power lines though, what I can't send there I will have to lower. I should have a lot of wieght off of it by the time I need to lower.

 

[Slvrmple72]

Treeman, first things first I would see how bad that old wound is. The new tear outs are of little concern. The old tear out could have a serious amount of decay. You are not gonna want to shake that thing up cutting huge sections off but the one thing I see going for it is that nice wound wood around the old tearout. This one has you a little rattled doesn't it? What percent of the canopy can you bomb outright without having to rope it down? I would bomb as much of it as you can and then proceed to rope down the stuff that is over prime targets. As far as upsetting the whole thing when you start bombing limbs that would depend on the extent of decay to the heartwood in that old tearout. Take a straw and cut a hole in it. Now bend it using the spot with the hole as its hinge. Keep that mental picture in mind when you go up to look into that older tearout, If it is hollow really bad like the straw and the holding wood shows signs of cracks/fissures then you know how you are going to want to do this. The safest way possible. Did it survive the windstorm? Did it see the windstorm? ( remnants of Ike, last year) Does the owner know when it lost the first limb, the other limbs? I hear they make a mean cheesesteak out that way!

 

[treemandan]

Treeman, first things first I would see how bad that old wound is. The new tear outs are of little concern. The old tear out could have a serious amount of decay. You are not gonna want to shake that thing up cutting huge sections off but the one thing I see going for it is that nice wound wood around the old tearout. This one has you a little rattled doesn't it? What percent of the canopy can you bomb outright without having to rope it down?

I think i can bomb most of it with no rope. There are actually 3 tear outs right at the same height. One I cleaned up last summer

That is the Ho right there. look at the size of the butt of that limb. It just missed crushing his house. He called me a week ago to remove the tree.

I looked at the 3 tear out wounds with binocs. I can see daylight throught the trunk. Not a lot. The older wounds don't look to bad. I don't know how long ago they ripped out.

 

[Bigbrass1's]

if ya thought about the bucket why not a crane? about 4-5 picks by the looks of it.

 

[Plasmech]

I say set primacord loops every 8 feet and wire them all together. Bring it down like a building implosion, have it stack itself and everything!

 

[treemandan]

if ya thought about the bucket why not a crane? about 4-5 picks by the looks of it.

Its still an option.

 

[treemandan]

I say set primacord loops every 8 feet and wire them all together. Bring it down like a building implosion, have it stack itself and everything!

Great idea! Bring some down. Fresh batteries in the video camera.