Rope burnt from descending, should I retire it? (see pictures)

[Tree94]

Was only about 20' and the dam thing burnt up fast.

Question to you guys is how do you deal with burnt rope? Will you still climb it or not at all?

thanks.

I think I'm going to order a descender tonight...

 

[treebilly]

Did you use that to tie a prussic on the climb line? I'm not positive but I don't think twisted rope is allowed in a climbing system anymore. There are braided climbing lines and split tails that take the heat much better. I'd be tying a taught line or Blake's hitch also.

 

[Tree94]

Did you use that to tie a prussic on the climb line? I'm not positive but I don't think twisted rope is allowed in a climbing system anymore. There are braided climbing lines and split tails that take the heat much better. I'd be tying a taught line or Blake's hitch also.

yea it was just all I had at the time, took it off my beranek lanyard.

I'm just wondering what your opinions are on if you think its still safe or not

 

[treebilly]

Well you didn't burn through very much but it's not gonna hold up very long in that application.

 

[gary courtney]

yes, you are worth more than that rope!

 

[Jed1124]

That is not climbing line. It wasn't suitable for climbing when it was brand new. Get some braided climbing line.

 

[TheJollyLogger]

It will still be safe on your flipline, but should never be used on your climbing system. Time to learn about melting points of different ropes.

 

[ATH]

Yes. Retire it.

 

[lone wolf]

No one on here is going to tell you to use that if your life depends on it. How the hell did you do that?

 

[Del_]

That's not so bad.

Keep a close eye on it and quit abusing your ropes.

There's no need to drop out of a tree like someone is shooting at you.

Tie your knot so the wear you pictured is in a non wear position.

 

[TheJollyLogger]

That nylon rope melts at 200° C and should never be used in a dynamic friction situation. By comparison, the outer cover on Beeline prussik cord melts at 800° C.

 

[RajElectric]

With all the proper tech cord that is available on the market now a days why use that? Who knows how deeply the heat has affected the strands. Retire it and upgrade.

 

[Zale]

I would still use it on my lanyard but like others have said, there are better materials out there to use in your climbing system.

 

[Tree94]

Thanks for the replies.

I didnt think it would burn up that fast.

I was actually at the park just trying out a new SRT method i'm gonna use tomorrow and it was kind of all I had so i threw it on my climb line.
It grabbed pretty nicely ascending up, but when it came time to descend it repelled fast and burnt the hell up.

I usually just climb on a traditional closed system with a blakes so I havent had much experience using a prussic cord.

now i know

 

[ATH]

One more reason not to use it: is that 1/2" 3 strand? Are you climbing on 1/2" rope? (please tell me that is not 3 strand too!) The friction cord should be the same or, ideally, smaller diameter than the climbing line so don't use 1/2" cord for your friction cord on anything less than 13mm climbing line.

 

[Tree94]

One more reason not to use it: is that 1/2" 3 strand? Are you climbing on 1/2" rope? (please tell me that is not 3 strand too!) The friction cord should be the same or, ideally, smaller diameter than the climbing line so don't use 1/2" cord for your friction cord on anything less than 13mm climbing line.

no my climb line is 1/2" 16 strand haha

 

[ATH]

OK...that is good news!

 

[TheJollyLogger]

Just a good reminder that there's a lot more to rope selection than WLL or tensile strength.

 

[Carburetorless]

Your prussic should have a higher melting point than your climb line, since the prussic takes most of the heat.

Polyester would be better than what you're using, it has a melting point around 480 degrees, Bee Line has a melting point around 800 degrees, which is higher than 480 degrees!