rope in ?

[bayard]

i have watched 4 climbers from 4 dif outfits.only one of them used a rope of anykind.now this is for a single tree take down,skin the tree on the way up,drop the top 15 to 20 feet.and cut the chunks on the way down.one guy repositioned his line just below the cut , and did this for every cut, [2-3 feet.]now if you are spiked in with a flip line,is this normal.k

 

[NCTREE]

I usually have my lanyard tied in just below my cut, then my climbing line is tied in a foot or two below my lanyard. You are suppose to be double tied in when making a cut especially when chunking wood on a spar. Rules have been known to be broken because it's fast to just set your lanyard though I wouldn't recommend it. You accidentally cut your lanyard and your dead.

 

[ATH]

Not sure if this is a "legit" way to be double tied in, but it has worked for me: I use my steel core flip line attached to the side D rings. Then I use a second lanyard clipped into the bridge, and that one is tied into the tree pretty tight.

The only thing I don't like about it, is there no quick way out of the tree (I'm not interested in doing the rapid decent seen in competition pole climbing...).

 

[RacerX]

The only thing I don't like about it, is there no quick way out of the tree (I'm not interested in doing the rapid decent seen in competition pole climbing...).

That is the advantage of using the climbing line for the second TIP. You can rapidly descend if necessary by removing the flip line and grabbing the knot. It does make some sense if you had to make an emergency descent to be set up this way.

 

[PinnaclePete]

ANSI states you must have 2 forms of tie in - climbing line and lanyard(flipline) when "working". In this case, if the spar starts galloping and the flipline comes over top, you're secure. If your gaffs kick out, you're secure and you don't slide down using your chin as a brake. Tie your climbing line into the spar with an adjustable friction saver that will cinch on the spar in case of a slip/fall. :yoyo:

 

[TrillPhil]

By using a split tail climbing system it is just as fast as a second flip line...

I like to wrap my wire core around the tree if I'm worried about my gaffs... I do it almost every time when taking out a piece I'm afraid might peel, etc...