Saw for Hire

[Gologit]

What the hell is gross profit?

I always thought profit was a net function.


I'll answer my own question.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_profit

I've see it used in commercial fishing. They'd call gross profit the total dollars recieved for a load of fish, crabs, whatever, before boat expenses were deducted.
After boat expenses were deducted from the gross profit you had net profit, and from that the crew shares were figured.
Not everybody did it that way and not everybody figured it just the same way. Like most book keeping there's all kinds of room for slack, and for manipulation.

Sooooo...gross profit might mean something entirely different to Oldoak. Probably does, too.

 

[Mntn Man]

TLC does a show called Mega Movers. A company that I used to work for was on there twice Moving 2 trains and a barn. They did great portraying the moves without making them look like dipshiots. The only reason to take it to that level is if you don't find the crew/job interesting in its own right.

 

[Stihl Alive]

TLC does a show called Mega Movers. A company that I used to work for was on there twice Moving 2 trains and a barn. They did great portraying the moves without making them look like dipshiots. The only reason to take it to that level is if you don't find the crew/job interesting in its own right.

good point

 

[rbtree]

This older article about Paul is rather complimentary.

http://www.urbantulsa.com/gyrobase/PrintFriendly?oid=16914

 

[rbtree]

But then, after the show started airing in Tulsa, this discussion occurred......some choice comments....

http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8314

as treemd has said, Nosak Tree Service's reputation is less than stellar.

 

[treedog54]

NO sak Tree

Feel sorry for the crew .I,m an old timer, started doin trees in69 .Any man talked to me like he does to his crew while I was working for them would be seriously hurt immediately.Pissed on more trees than hes done .And I think show does give all true tree guys a bad rep.

 

[Taxmantoo]

But then, after the show started airing in Tulsa, this discussion occurred......some choice comments....

http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8314

On page 2 of your link, "John Redcorn" claims that the guy with the long goatee, whose bio says his favorite magazine is "High Times", goes to bars with a guy who's not on the show, and they like to start fights.

I checked on nosackraw.com and there's a fellow with a long goatee, favorite mag is "High Times", and his name is Joshua Paul Nosack.

 

[Romeosgrl]

On page 2 of your link, "John Redcorn" claims that the guy with the long goatee, whose bio says his favorite magazine is "High Times", goes to bars with a guy who's not on the show, and they like to start fights.

I checked on nosackraw.com and there's a fellow with a long goatee, favorite mag is "High Times", and his name is Joshua Paul Nosack.

Yep, its Pauls nephew.

 

[Taxmantoo]

Yep, its Pauls nephew.

Was the part about ill tempered bar behavior true, and is his pub brawling partner his brother?

 

[Romeosgrl]

Was the part about ill tempered bar behavior true, and is his pub brawling partner his brother?

That I dont really know, since Ive never been out with him, but I have heard rumor of it before.

 

[scattergun13]

Yes, Gerome is a very good climber, see we agree on something! And I also agree Paul is an idiot! There, we agree on 2 things... the only thing I dont agree with, is that there is anything wrong with the show...general mass population likes to see mishaps...likes to see drama...and thats what is in the show. Dont like it, dont watch.

She's definately the truck driver...

 

[Romeosgrl]

She's definately the truck driver...

Did you not read back earlier in the post? Im not Michelle (the truck driver) Im Geromes wife!

 

[smokechase II]

Other drugs

Alcohol has certainly been a huge problem in the loggers of days past and present.

Meth has made its way into the woods of the PNW. Not necessarily in a big way among the fallers, but certainly down the food chain. Some outfits deal with weekly turnover at the grunt level.

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Can anyone give us a feel for the drugs of choice other than alcohol and tobacco in the arborist community? (I'm just going to assume those particular drugs are used extensively.)

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In all honesty, if you're a general member of the public and you view AxMen and Saw 4 you have to wonder about that.
I don't care who I just offended, other than those who actually don't have a drug problem. SORRY.

You look at the behaviors on these shows and have to wonder.


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That is the image projected.

Get over that FACT and consider how you can help your industry starting with competency and behavior.

 

[scattergun13]

Did you not read back earlier in the post? Im not Michelle (the truck driver) Im Geromes wife!

Yeah I read it, I was just stirring the pot a little. Relax...You said earlier that if one didn't like the show then they shouldn't watch it. I don't and I don't. I caught the show twice and commented earlier that I'm not an arborist but even I could see the damage this does to the industry. To some degree your husband's rep may be damaged by his association with this idiot. I can see why people are calling for the show to be pulled.
High times reading, dope smoking chain saw running idiots with ADHD, that's great theater.

 

[Romeosgrl]

Alcohol has certainly been a huge problem in the loggers of days past and present.

Meth has made its way into the woods of the PNW. Not necessarily in a big way among the fallers, but certainly down the food chain. Some outfits deal with weekly turnover at the grunt level.

==============

Can anyone give us a feel for the drugs of choice other than alcohol and tobacco in the arborist community? (I'm just going to assume those particular drugs are used extensively.)

-----------------

In all honesty, if you're a general member of the public and you view AxMen and Saw 4 you have to wonder about that.
I don't care who I just offended, other than those who actually don't have a drug problem. SORRY.

You look at the behaviors on these shows and have to wonder.


*****************

That is the image projected.

Get over that FACT and consider how you can help your industry starting with competency and behavior.

Gerome is the only one I can speak for and I can tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt he does not do any drugs. He even quit smoking...so proud of him for that...
But just to play devils advocate here, just because someone acts in a way unbecoming, that you dont agree with, in no way means they are on drugs. I know a lot of guys in the tree industry, and that blanket statement is extremely off base and judgemental and rude. And to say no offense and then say something offensive, doesn't make you sound like any less of an ass.
And as Ive said before, and will say once more, the show is 20 minutes cliped out of hours and hours of taping...what the producers want, is what will sell the show, and NO ONE in this industry can tell me they never have screw ups, mishaps, or miscommunications. So before you judge Paul and the crew, maybe think about the great number of hours that you dont see, that the producers didn't show because there was no excitement (I.E. mishaps). Maybe none of you have ever lifted a crane off the ground, but you cant tell me you haven't had a mishap of any kind. Man people are so judgemental! Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones... Get off your high horse and look in a mirror. I GUARANTEE you are not perfect or even close to it.

 

[scattergun13]

Alcohol has certainly been a huge problem in the loggers of days past and present.

Meth has made its way into the woods of the PNW. Not necessarily in a big way among the fallers, but certainly down the food chain. Some outfits deal with weekly turnover at the grunt level.

==============

Can anyone give us a feel for the drugs of choice other than alcohol and tobacco in the arborist community? (I'm just going to assume those particular drugs are used extensively.)

-----------------

In all honesty, if you're a general member of the public and you view AxMen and Saw 4 you have to wonder about that.
I don't care who I just offended, other than those who actually don't have a drug problem. SORRY.

You look at the behaviors on these shows and have to wonder.


*****************

That is the image projected.

Get over that FACT and consider how you can help your industry starting with competency and behavior.

:agree2: In this coming economy, to be competative image will be everything. If I needed a tree taken down my money wouldn't go to the loudmouth who's crew prefers sleeveless t-shirts and look like they just got out on bond.

 

[Romeosgrl]

:agree2: In this coming economy, to be competative image will be everything. If I needed a tree taken down my money wouldn't go to the loudmouth who's crew prefers sleeveless t-shirts and look like they just got out on bond.

Good thing Im married to the best tree guy in the state, I dont have to worry about hiring anyone to do it.
You know, Gerome has more years of on the job experience than a lot of "certified arborists", He is respectful, professional, and extremely good at what he does. So if people want to look at the sleveless shirt and earrings and not hire him for it, then they are ignorant and its their loss. Uptight, rigid peice of crap, close minded idiots deserve shoddy work if all they care about is how a person dresses. And what makes a person look like they "just got out on bond"? Facial hair, messy hair, sleveless shirt...ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Wow, seriouly, grow up! I went to work with Gerome this weekend and was his ground hand, I was wearing the crappiest pair of jeans I could find, and a stained up carhardt hoodie cuz its dirty messy work and clothes get torn up, plus OMG my hair was a mess (from the hard hat) and I was dirty from DRAGGING BRUSH...does that make me freshly released on bond too?

 

[Mrs. Jkebxjunke]

Good thing Im married to the best tree guy in the state, I dont have to worry about hiring anyone to do it.
You know, Gerome has more years of on the job experience than a lot of "certified arborists", He is respectful, professional, and extremely good at what he does. So if people want to look at the sleveless shirt and earrings and not hire him for it, then they are ignorant and its their loss. Uptight, rigid peice of crap, close minded idiots deserve shoddy work if all they care about is how a person dresses. And what makes a person look like they "just got out on bond"? Facial hair, messy hair, sleveless shirt...ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Wow, seriouly, grow up! I went to work with Gerome this weekend and was his ground hand, I was wearing the crappiest pair of jeans I could find, and a stained up carhardt hoodie cuz its dirty messy work and clothes get torn up, plus OMG my hair was a mess (from the hard hat) and I was dirty from DRAGGING BRUSH...does that make me freshly released on bond too?

Listen here missy, I think you need to grow up instead of telling others to grow up

 

[Romeosgrl]

Listen here missy, I think you need to grow up instead of telling others to grow up

When people are judgemental and rude, they need to grow up, I haven't insulted anyone on this thread, I have more class than that. No one on here has met a single one of those guys on the show, so judging them and saying they look like criminals, is CHILDISH! Me telling them they are being childish doesn't make me need to grow up....it makes me right.

 

[Mrs. Jkebxjunke]

When people are judgemental and rude, they need to grow up, I haven't insulted anyone on this thread, I have more class than that. No one on here has met a single one of those guys on the show, so judging them and saying they look like criminals, is CHILDISH! Me telling them they are being childish doesn't make me need to grow up....it makes me right.

Why so judgmental towards them?
their just sharing their thoughts!