Scrounging Firewood (and other stuff)

[GrizG]

I just read an academic journal article about the Ellenville (NY) Glass Works. In the section about the period 1840-1870 the company bought 125 properties. Some was used for the factory, some to house the workers, but most to supply the 10,000 cord of firewood per year needed at the factory. No chainsaws or feller bunchers in that period! Think about that for a moment!

For you bottle collectors… you might be interested in this article. It appeared in The Hudson River Valley Review, Volume. 38, No 2, Spring 2022. (Marist College). I attended a program last evening by the author, Alex Prizgintas.

 

[MechanicMatt]

I just read an academic journal article about the Ellenville (NY) Glass Works. In the section about the period 1840-1870 the company bought 125 properties. Some was used for the factory, some to house the workers, but most to supply the 10,000 cord of firewood per year needed at the factory. No chainsaws or feller bunchers in that period! Think about that for a moment!

For you bottle collectors… you might be interested in this article. It appeared in The Hudson River Valley Review, Volume. 38, No 2, Spring 2022. (Marist College). I attended a program last evening by the author, Alex Prizgintas.

Sad when you think about the heritage of this area and how all the jobs were moved overseas

Walden and Ellenville both were places Schade had knife factories

Now they have little business in both towns

 

[GrizG]

Sad when you think about the heritage of this area and how all the jobs were moved overseas

Walden and Ellenville both were places Schade had knife factories

Now they have little business in both towns

The only sign the glassworks ever existed is literally a historical marker sign… the O&W RR station in Ellenville sits on the site of the factory. The O&W was shut down in 1957. About 4 years ago the glass company’s general store building was torn down… it was the last structure.

The Schrade and Channel Master sites in Ellenville are barely recognizable with most of those structures gone too.

The loss of industry in NY is very visible along the Erie Canal corridor… lots of rotting infrastructure. Sadly Remington is among that loss.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

The wat NY treated Remington, they should have left long ago.

SR

 

[Sampson]

Looks fun! Are the salmon landlocked Atlantics? We catch an Atlantic once every few years on Lake Michigan.

Yessir! Best eating fish we are allowed to retain in the province. The sea run atlantics that go out to sea to mature and come back to the rivers to spawn are even better table fare, but we are no longer allowed to retain them. Sadly, due to poor management, most notably the lax enforcement of buffer zones adjacent to waterways and the resulting runoff from clearcuts that fills rivers in with silt makes for unhospitable conditions for salmonids. The once abundant fishery that accounted for big tourism $ and a history of recreation for locals is on the way out. Thankfully we still have some opportunities to get future generations interested in the outdoors.

 

[MustangMike]

Not defending NY, but the nail in the coffin for Remington was the lawsuit against them after the Newtown CT shooting.

How a gun manufacturer making a legal gun is held responsible for a killing spree, I will never understand, but that is what happened.

My cousins Husband worked for "the Arms" (as they called it) for decades.

 

[JimR]

The only sign the glassworks ever existed is literally a historical marker sign… the O&W RR station in Ellenville sits on the site of the factory. The O&W was shut down in 1957. About 4 years ago the glass company’s general store building was torn down… it was the last structure.

The Schrade and Channel Master sites in Ellenville are barely recognizable with most of those structures gone too.

The loss of industry in NY is very visible along the Erie Canal corridor… lots of rotting infrastructure. Sadly Remington is among that loss.

Remington made the right move. NY is not a gun friendly place to do business in.

 

[MustangMike]

Remington made the right move. NY is not a gun friendly place to do business in.

On a Statewide basis, yes, but locally they were respected, they were a major employer in the area and had been there since the 1800s. What happened is a shame!

Ditto all the firearms manufacturing that has left MA and CT.

 

[GrizG]

Not defending NY, but the nail in the coffin for Remington was the lawsuit against them after the Newtown CT shooting.

How a gun manufacturer making a legal gun is held responsible for a killing spree, I will never understand, but that is what happened.

My cousins Husband worked for "the Arms" (as they called it) for decades.

I never understood how that lawsuit was allowed to proceed as there is a federal law prohibiting such suits…

 

[MustangMike]

So, when are we going to hear how much the fires in CA have contributed to global warming, and how the toxins released create cancer for people in CA???

And they are concerned about gas stoves, wood burning stoves and leaf blowers!!!

You just can't make this stuff up!

Being anal about the small things while ignoring/facilitating the major disasters seems like a pretty dumb environmental policy to me.

I think if my house had burned down, and I had lost everything I own, I would want to tar and feather a few politicians!

 

[GrizG]

On a Statewide basis, yes, but locally they were respected, they were a major employer in the area and had been there since the 1800s. What happened is a shame!

Ditto all the firearms manufacturing that has left MA and CT.

Politics has all but erased Ilion. Not only are the Remington jobs gone but when they built the Empire State Trail they rerouted the Erie Canalway Trail around Ilion proper and put it on state Highway ROW. The tourist dollars aren’t flowing into Ilion now either…

 

[Sampson]

Anyone have experience with adding a woodstove to an existing brick chimney? We have a chimney in our house that was originally used for a wood furnace in the basement. The furnace was removed some time before we bought the house. I have been wanting to add a woodstove to the main level of the house and I am wondering about the possibility of routing it through the existing chimney, probably with the use of a stainless steel liner. I already have a good supply of firewood on hand for my woodworking shop and I enjoy the process of scrounging and processing firewood. I figure what better excuse to dedicate more time and energy to that pursuit, it's good exercise. I will have to get a professional here to assess the condition of the chimney and determine feasibility etc, but I'm wondering if anyone here has gone this route.

 

[SimonHS]

Anyone have experience with adding a woodstove to an existing brick chimney? We have a chimney in our house that was originally used for a wood furnace in the basement. The furnace was removed some time before we bought the house. I have been wanting to add a woodstove to the main level of the house and I am wondering about the possibility of routing it through the existing chimney, probably with the use of a stainless steel liner. I already have a good supply of firewood on hand for my woodworking shop and I enjoy the process of scrounging and processing firewood. I figure what better excuse to dedicate more time and energy to that pursuit, it's good exercise. I will have to get a professional here to assess the condition of the chimney and determine feasibility etc, but I'm wondering if anyone here has gone this route.

Yes. It is common practice in the UK.

 

[MustangMike]

Anyone have experience with adding a woodstove to an existing brick chimney?

Yes, I did it with my first house. I believe mine was cement block with a ceramic pipe middle. Just routed regular 6" galvanized pipe into it. Not sure what the code would be now, this was in the circa 1980. It worked well. As you mentioned, you just have to make sure the chimney is sound. I cleaned it, with a wire brush from the rooftop, every year to remove the "scale" on the sides. It never got bad, but I did not want it to get bad!