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As a hunter I would say let them know whats going on and let them make their own grownup decision. If they dont move then do what you have to do. Chances are they would understand and be happy to move on after a decent conversation. But as demonstrated in this thread and threads in every other forum on the net, there are dip$hit$ on both sides!
 
Man, you are on FIRE tonight. If only I could rep you.................:mad:

Done.

And Slowp I imagine just a calm, professional explanation about what needs to happen will do the trick. If not, at least you can honestly say you've TRIED to be civil about it.

Or y'know... if all else fails I'm sure RandyMac could have them tire-ironed! :cheers:
 
Patty,

Just leave a note letting them know what's fixing to happen shortly, along with your contact info.

You can always escalate the matter to include local Law and a tow truck later on if they want to be beligerant about it.

They wont want to be there with the logging going on anyhow, and you'd be doing them a favor.

Stay safe!
Dingeryote
 
Just grab the idiots stuff with the skidder / track hoe/ cat, whatever and move it if they give you any lip.
 
As a hunter I would say let them know whats going on and let them make their own grownup decision. If they dont move then do what you have to do. Chances are they would understand and be happy to move on after a decent conversation. But as demonstrated in this thread and threads in every other forum on the net, there are dip$hit$ on both sides!

there is a certain type of scum that can't be reasoned with. They were asked politely to move on, instead vulgar threats were made. They could have just left with their stuff, but they ended up walking out with nothing. They had cut up a deck of peeler grade DF to sell as firewood.
 
Ah, it is morning and I had a brain fart. There may be a nice spot to go to if one of the loggers would like some company.

One thing I find unusual. In that part of the country, in one of the units, there were a couple of shacks left intact. I thought that was illegal. Had the guys carefully skidding around one, which they did well because it was on the map to be protected. The shacks can't be old enough to be archeological sites as they are of pretty shabby construction. Maybe packrats are endangered there?

Maybe I shouldn't have called the hunters, squatters, but I am sure they will hold out until elk season.
 
there is a certain type of scum that can't be reasoned with. They were asked politely to move on, instead vulgar threats were made. They could have just left with their stuff, but they ended up walking out with nothing. They had cut up a deck of peeler grade DF to sell as firewood.

Gotcha! Totally different ballgame then! I figured there was more to the story!
 
Fall '97 I was contracted to the BLM in western Oregon and camped near the Siuslaw River. A couple rolled in nearby and asked "permission" to camp there. Well, having no authority to grant or deny such permission, I said "why not", and figured they were OK, since I sure appreciated the gesture.

Couple weeks go by. Trash piles up near their camp, and I begin to wonder if that was a good idea. Eventually they abandon the camp, trash and all, and move up the road a piece.

A couple of weeks later, I'm awakened by helicopter noise. I walk over to the other side of the gravel pile I'm camped by to see a SWAT team in full riot gear, two ambulances, and a news crew! I ask somebody who appears to be in charge if I should be somewhere else. He suggests that maybe I should. I hit the trail for my day's work.

When I get back, hours later, I see the whole procession rolling out. In the evening, a burly female detective stops by my trailer to ask me what I knew about the folks camped nearby. Well, I didn't know much, so she asks if I'd pick 'em out of a line-up. I said no, they'd done me no harm and I didn't know what they were accused of.

Couple weeks later I find out that they had been stealing cars or something and had been cornered at the end of a dead-end road near my camp that morning. Shots were fired, hence the SWAT team.

Punch-line: my BLM contract boss had seen the whole thing on the news, and had recognized the area. Somehow, he thought it was my partner and myself, and was surprised to see us show up in the office the next day!
 
May-be you could knit them something?

Like a noose. Show them your badge.

Depnds, if they are not in the way or going to be in the way for the duration of their stay, let 'em know the policy and risk. If they are trouble, just drop a log on 'em (so to speak)

edit> "I'm afraid you guys will have to move your camp" I've dealt with large property hunting issues, asking and negotiating doesn't typically work. Civil and direct does. Most every hunter wants the best advantage they can get, and the sense of entitlement knows no boundaries.
 
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Back in the late 80s, we were logging a sale in mid summer, just before the rains started.
Well it was soo dusty that we were wading in calf high dust. The loaderman told me that as soon as the rains started we would start seeing lots of campers. He was right, here they came. All types, big, little, tents motorhomes, camp trailers ect. We were camping also, as it was 3 hours away from home. they parked right beside us and partied all night, drinking beer ect...
I got soo pissed off that I went over to them at 3:30 am the time we got up anyway and knocked on their doors and said what the hell was going on last night. They stumbled to the door, not in the best of moods and told me to #### off.
I said, Ill be back.
I talked to my loaderman, told him the issue and he helped to get rid of them.
He walked the boom loader to their camp, picked up a stump and dropped it on their campfire. Sparks went everywhere. They did not come out, we went to work.
They were gone that night when we got back. They even left me a 6-pack of coors light.
 
I asked this same question of a guy who writes hunting and gun articles. Boy, he got huffy and said that the hunters put lots of time in their camping choice and might even have thousands of dollars invested in their equipment.

I replied back that you guys had more thousands of dollars plus crew plus equipment payments plus livlihood. Also that it isn't cheap to move in and out.

No reply has come back.

I should be back in the game tomorrow or Thursday. Disinfect your screens after reading this.
 
I asked this same question of a guy who writes hunting and gun articles. Boy, he got huffy and said that the hunters put lots of time in their camping choice and might even have thousands of dollars invested in their equipment.

I replied back that you guys had more thousands of dollars plus crew plus equipment payments plus livlihood. Also that it isn't cheap to move in and out.

No reply has come back.

I should be back in the game tomorrow or Thursday. Disinfect your screens after reading this.

Way to sum it up for all of us. Well said.
 
I asked this same question of a guy who writes hunting and gun articles. Boy, he got huffy and said that the hunters put lots of time in their camping choice and might even have thousands of dollars invested in their equipment.

I replied back that you guys had more thousands of dollars plus crew plus equipment payments plus livlihood. Also that it isn't cheap to move in and out.

Exactly. They're playing, we're working. I understand why people like to come to the woods for recreation but they need to remember that we're making a living up there.

LOL...Last month I had some hunters from Sacramento complain that the logging roads were too rough and dusty and couldn't we do something about that. :bang: They were on our ground so I advised them to move over to USFS land...the roads were much better there. Sorry, Slowp. :laugh:
 
Elk Season only lasted a week in that area. So, nobody had to move. Now, it is starting on this side of the mountains. The snow level is supposed to drop to 2500 feet. Oh joy.
 
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