Silky Ginga

[Manco]

I have had trouble with this saw falling out of it's scabbard while climbing. Usually when coming down through limbs, the scabbard tip will lay on a branch and dump the saw right out. I think I need some sort of lanyard. Anyone have a solution?
That saw has got to be one of the sharpest hand-saws ever made.

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

Most of those saws have a hinged scabbard that needs to be taped up to keep the joint from moving. Zubat is tha same way, and it has a little locking tab that breaks off after a while.

 

[Redbull]

Someone mentioned magnets on another forum. I don't remember who mentioned it or I'd give them credit where it's due. Sorry.

 

[Manco]

Thanks for the replies

JPS- Where do you put the tape? Around the opening? It did seem to stay in better before the opening spread a little bit.

Redbull- What did they say about the magnets?

 

[jason j ladue]

i also have seen this thread topic. i know where, but that is not important. i have never used the Silky line-though i have heard they make a superior product. i use a Fanno saw and Weaver scabbard. the ONLY time my saw has fallen out (even when turned up-side-down) is when i forgot to make sure all the moss and sawdust and whatnot is cleaned outta the scabbard. there are slots in the tip of the scabbard so as you can clean it out easily. a small roud file works great. another thing i like about this particular setup is the pruner pocket on the side of the scabbard. i carry a pair of Felco#8 in it- and they dont fall out either. so long as you keep them open the tension of the spring keeps them right in there, even when inverted.

 

[Old Monkey]

i also have seen this thread topic. i know where, but that is not important. i have never used the Silky line-though i have heard they make a superior product. i use a Fanno saw and Weaver scabbard. the ONLY time my saw has fallen out (even when turned up-side-down) is when i forgot to make sure all the moss and sawdust and whatnot is cleaned outta the scabbard. there are slots in the tip of the scabbard so as you can clean it out easily. a small roud file works great. another thing i like about this particular setup is the pruner pocket on the side of the scabbard. i carry a pair of Felco#8 in it- and they dont fall out either. so long as you keep them open the tension of the spring keeps them right in there, even when inverted.

I love your pic, everything looks so well used, like you work for a living. Most gear pics on this site look like they've never seen a days use. I have the same scabbard as you and the same felcos, right down to the missing plastic on one handle. In the past I've taken a box cutter knife and cut a square out of the bottom of my scabbard to let debris fall out easier. I just bought a Silky Sugoi a couple of weeks ago. The saw rocks and the scabbard keeps the saw from falling out. Unfortunately, the scabbard is plastic and it has started to crack after only nine days of average use.

 

[jason j ladue]

thanks monkey. the scabbard/saw setup in that pic is six years old. the blades iv'e been using for the last couple years are made by ARS. good idea about cutting a hole to let the garbage fall out the bottom. i like to follow the site rules so i wont say what i think about silky. (i have never used em) if they would like to send me one i would gladly give it a review...

 

[Stumper]

Jason, The difference between Silky saws and Fannos and Coronas is noticable. -Which doesn't mean that the Fanno or Corona isn't excellent but the way Silkies cut is awe inspiring.

 

[jason j ladue]

Jason a silky zubat will cut circles around your ars blades. I know, I have both.

But I do think an ars saw is a good match when climbing with a blake's hitch.....

Dan

he he he.... hee heee hee HA HA HAHAHAA...HA! you make me laugh, dan. i like you dude
i have heard that silky makes super stuff and i wonder if any1 can tell me what the distinguishing factor(s) in produuction might be. what do they do to their blades that sets them apart. is it the steel? the tooth configuration?
btw, it isnt always the truck, sometimes it's the driver...

 

[Stumper]

Teeth are honed a bit sharper, hardened a bit more perfectly and the spine of the blade is tapered for less drag. It all adds up to a superior saw (But they are a little more delicate than a Corona). I've never used an ARS handsaw but they are my favorite polesaw blade. I'm kinda surprised by Dan's assertion that the Silky will cut rings around an ARS-I would have expected a little better but nothing extreme.

 

[SteveBullman]

think hes exagerating a touch, sure its not quite as good as the silky but its still a good blade. im still keen to try the samurai blades.
im with you on the ars pole saw blade though, that defintly beats the silky IMO

 

[jason j ladue]

as you can see in that photo, i am pretty hard on my equipment. i guess i consider the silky a little dainty (if you will) for what i'm gonna ask it to do. they seem a little expensive to take them into the tree. maybe for the ground work...they always have struck me as a very fine tuned instrument. not only that, i also wondered if that plastic scabbard might not break if i got got it caught between my bony behind and a limb when i sat down on it...which i frequently find happening w/ my saw.

 

[Stumper]

Saying they are more delicate may paint the wrong picture-Silky are precision tools but they aren't too fragile to work with. I'm still using the same Gomtaro scabbard aftera couple of years.(Coming up on three I think). Time will tell about the Sugoi scabbard. Of course the Zubat will fit nicely in a standard pony saw scabbard from Weaver or Buckingham.

 

[Old Monkey]

My Sugoi is better at some things and worse at others. The thread is very aggressive and goes through 4" green limbs like butter. It doesn't do as well on dead limbs. On small stuff like sucker branches in fruit trees it tends to just grab them and pull them. I switch back to my Corona for fruit trees. I have used Fannos, Coronas and ARS and they all cut more or less the same after the first week. I usually just buy the cheapest of the three. To repeat my earlier post, my Sugoi scabbard is cracking after two weeks of moderate use. I expect a little better for the money I paid.

 

[SteveBullman]

iwas rigging out a piece the other week and when it swung round the rope caught on the sugoi handle, bending the blade and snapping the top of the scabbard. its useless now. sure it was operator error so its something to keep an eye on when you're rigging

 

[jason j ladue]

On small stuff like sucker branches in fruit trees it tends to just grab them and pull them. I switch back to my Corona for fruit trees. .

that is why i like having that set of puners w/ me. it is just so much more practical. also i occasionally find myself jammed into a tight spot w/ a little shoot or tip trying to poke me in the (insert bodily opening opening here). so it is nice having the option of using the snippers to remove the problem.
and it sounds you're right, monkey, you should expect more bang for your buck.

 

[jason j ladue]

lemme guess, dan, it's raining in your neck of the woods today too...

 

[treeseer]

I think every scabbard should have a side pouch for secateurs, which is the manly French name for hand pruners. I also have snippers but they are small and made for flower-size cuts. If we call our tools by the right name we won't have to hear any guff from bored hosta geeks. :umpkin:

 

[jason j ladue]

us too. freaky rain over the weekend. more rain in the last 48 hrs than in the last two months combined. and right in the middle of the 2nd or 3rd dryest season on record. i figured something must be keeping you indoors 2day. how else is a guy gonna attack another mans clippers like that...

 

[jason j ladue]

ha! dan, you must be the guy the sales guy at the store was telling me about the day i went in to buy my hot pink pruners. he said some dude in a beat-up 1ton w/a chipper box on it just came in and bought the whole order. so i had to settle for the lavender ones. he he he...