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Could someone please describe type of tach ( photo, inductive pickup or otherwise) used to read saw engine rpm and some detail on procedure.I have access to the tools and know how to use them. I got a Stihl of a deal on a 066w and have checked it over thoroughly and it is in excellent running order. Reading posts here has made me aware of the fine line between mixture and rpm on these engines. Excessive rpm is a sure sign of over lean; correct? I cannot tune this saw by ear as some might and would hate to burn the cylinder,rings or piston simply because of a mis-adjusted jet.I know the inlet is sound but cannot speak of the case seals.This must pertain to the vacuum/pressure checks I hear speak of.Bottom line, saw is new to me, runs well and I would like to check max rpm as this is a reflection of mixture.Please chime in if you can .
 
Could someone please describe type of tach ( photo, inductive pickup or otherwise) used to read saw engine rpm and some detail on procedure.I have access to the tools and know how to use them. I got a Stihl of a deal on a 066w and have checked it over thoroughly and it is in excellent running order. Reading posts here has made me aware of the fine line between mixture and rpm on these engines. Excessive rpm is a sure sign of over lean; correct? I cannot tune this saw by ear as some might and would hate to burn the cylinder,rings or piston simply because of a mis-adjusted jet.I know the inlet is sound but cannot speak of the case seals.This must pertain to the vacuum/pressure checks I hear speak of.Bottom line, saw is new to me, runs well and I would like to check max rpm as this is a reflection of mixture.Please chime in if you can .


Yes, to lean is to fast, to a point, but destructive

A digital tach seems best, you will need something that can read 15K .

What I would do is hook up the tach, run the "H" jet out to a good 1 1/4 - 1 1/2 CCW* from all the way in (you need to cut the tabs off the limiter caps, do a search) start the saw (bar and chain adjusted like your going to run it, no sag, no drag) on a good mat or log/stump, and bring it up to speed, at about half throttle your going to know if your too rich and it is not responding much to the trigger, or it is progressing nicely?

Watching the RPM"S, hopefully it will wind out to maybe 10 - 11K (give or take) that's good, turn the "H" in just a tad, and retest, when it retest a a constant 13K, sink it into some wood! I been cutting at 9,500 feet, and 13.300 is a good out of wood speed.

An occasional burble out of the wood, but clears up in the wood is about as close as I can get it.

*If everything is hunky-dory, about 1 turn out is about were you will end up,,,, @ 1 1/2 turns out, it will run a safe , fat/pig-rich speed, adjusting in from fat seems better then out from destructive.
 
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Sea level ?

I follow you on this. Start rich,wind H in and check speeds. Then test under load. This saw will be used 100' above sea level as opposed to you being almost 2 miles up. This shouldn't effect target rpm only adjustment required to get the speed you described? Am I correct on this Shoerfast? Thanks.
 
I follow you on this. Start rich,wind H in and check speeds. Then test under load. This saw will be used 100' above sea level as opposed to you being almost 2 miles up. This shouldn't effect target rpm only adjustment required to get the speed you described? Am I correct on this Shoerfast? Thanks.

Mentioning the alititude is maybe moot.

Thats a good link from 24 , there all about the same,,,,, the way I came up with my 13,300 is by doing times cuts and then checking it WOT at free speed
, just so it could be duplacated.

When your testing, pay attintion to the tone changes, the sound is real good to help you get a grasp of whats happening.

Your going to want somewere around 13K
 
report back

Thanks Shoerfast and 24d, interesting how the link confirmed Shoerfast's response. I will check the speeds next week at work and report back. Appreciate your responses.
 
thanks you 2-I like it mostly for that sound of tune'n-I hope you saw that-
 
I tached a few saws today, with the tach I got with Witchys 5100.

First out was the 5100, idle was about 2k, too low, and it quit several times on me - cranked it up to 2500, and everything was well.
WOT reading was 14200, maybe a bit high for run-in, but I left it there.....(what do you say, Scott).

Next out was the ol' Troll (MS361) - it ran a fine and steady 2700 at idle, but as I suspected the WOT reading was a bit high, 14600 rpm - cranked it down to 14080. (15" bar, and 3/8x8) - what do you say, Tom and Andy?????

Last out was the 339xp, 2700 at idle, and 13300 at WOT, no reason to change anything there, for run-in.......:givebeer:
 
speed bang on

I had inquired about tachs for saw rpm and thought that one at work would be suitable, no such luck.Stuck my head in the local Stihl dealer and the fellow there read it on the spot, no problem. WOT= 13000 on the nose.It would appear someone looked after this 066W and the guy before me got frustrated because he couldn't start it ,(I found the high idle cam/release broken).Not too bad for $200 Canadian I must say. It's so nice when something goes your way.Thanks for your advice everyone.
 

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