treesdenver
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Cam already starting to slip. Using sterling tendril. I know you're supposed to use a friction saver but 1 month?
spiderjack cam worn after a month
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The friction saver is for automatic slack tending.
With a friction saver.. Your cam would have burned up much, much faster.
Are you doing crazy bomb out descents, or not using the friction block? Or a combination of both?
treesdenver
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I thought the friction saver prevented dirt and bark from wearing out the cam faster.
I didn't know using the friction block makes them last longer though.
Pretty jerky on it as I'm used to using a lockjack. Still a bit suprised that it only lasted a month.
I've also heard from someone that their cams lasted longer when they switched to velocity rope?
I didn't know using the friction block makes them last longer though.
Pretty jerky on it as I'm used to using a lockjack. Still a bit suprised that it only lasted a month.
I've also heard from someone that their cams lasted longer when they switched to velocity rope?
Maybe it has a less aggressive cover?
Also.. Good point about bark and dirt... But its mainly to avoid friction at your TIP to improve self tending.
The friction you gain at your TIP natural crotching takes some of the load of your weight.. Reducing what the cam sees.
Fricton doesn't disappear.. It has to go somewhere. And with a friction saver, It's transfered onto your hitch/mechanical device. Therein.. It's holding more of your weight = the more friction the cam has to exert to hold you = the faster the cam wears out.
Did I make any sense?
Also.. Good point about bark and dirt... But its mainly to avoid friction at your TIP to improve self tending.
The friction you gain at your TIP natural crotching takes some of the load of your weight.. Reducing what the cam sees.
Fricton doesn't disappear.. It has to go somewhere. And with a friction saver, It's transfered onto your hitch/mechanical device. Therein.. It's holding more of your weight = the more friction the cam has to exert to hold you = the faster the cam wears out.
Did I make any sense?
treesdenver
ArboristSite Lurker
Good point but I've hardly used my friction saver lately. If it's worse with one I can't imagine how fast the cam would burn out. I guess ill just try the velocity and friction block more often and see how that goes.
Bandit Man
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Like Acer said, use the wooden friction block on the Spiderjack for descents. Makes a huge difference. I am 250 lbs plus gear in the tree. I run off an Omni block with loopie as a tip, and have used the same cam for more than a year,no problems. I absolutely love the No slack tending !
QUOTE="acer-kid, post: 5482574, member: 129857"]The friction saver is for automatic slack tending.
With a friction saver.. Your cam would have burned up much, much faster.
Are you doing crazy bomb out descents, or not using the friction block? Or a combination of both?[/QUOTE]
I agree a friction saver or pulley will increase the weight on your hitch Jr mechanical prussick. Your split tail will wear far faster and get much hitter and your cams will wear much quicker.
With a friction saver.. Your cam would have burned up much, much faster.
Are you doing crazy bomb out descents, or not using the friction block? Or a combination of both?[/QUOTE]
I agree a friction saver or pulley will increase the weight on your hitch Jr mechanical prussick. Your split tail will wear far faster and get much hitter and your cams will wear much quicker.
I agree a friction saver or pulley will increase the weight on your hitch Jr mechanical prussick. Your split tail will wear far faster and get much hitter and your cams will wear much quicker.[/QUOTE]
Yea man. For sure. Friction doesn't disappear. It just transfers. If it's lost at the tie in, it's gotta go somewhere.
