Splicing Ultra Tech

[rfwoodvt]

Hi!

I'm looking to splice my ultratech polyester covered technora into eye and eye cords for Distal and Schwabish use.

I've seen them in some catalogs showing the eyes to be "naked" cores with covered bodies.

I prefer to use a brummel splice for this kind of eye.

Any suggestions on pros & cons of the naked eye as opposed to the covered eyes?

How would I secure the cover with the naked eyes?

ThanX!

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

A naked eye is te type of splice you need to do because all the strength is in the core. I suppose you could cover it somehow. The ones you see in sherrill the ends are dipped in some rubbery stuff.
To keep the cover in place, I think they stitch it, and whip it, then put some heat shrink or something over the ends. You might want to melt the ends of the polyester to to keep it from raveling.

 

[dbeck]

MM made good points. Maybe you have your heart set on using ultratech, but did you consider using other cords? I use sta-set 3/8" and get it for around 50 cents/ft. Compared to UT, that is sicnificant savings, especially when you consider the beating splittails get!www.sailnet.com this is the site JPS led me to. Search in it for New englnd ropes or sta-set, i cannot remember.
This has been mentioned in many other threads, do a search on this site and see what you can find!

 

[TreeJunkie]

I've been splicing w/ the ultra tech for a couple months now, and it's sooooo easy,,,,i fix the outer cove by first using the electrical shrink tubing and then by lock stitching and whipping over the top...The rubber substance on the naked ends is liquid electrical tape. I double dip the ends,, it saved them from fraying and leaves a nice touch...

Is the sta set spliceable? Is it the same technique,,,the only reason ive used the ultratech was b/c of the spliceabilty,,I haven't seen any sta'set spliced before, and i don't like the fisherman's knots...

 

[TreeJunkie]

I primarily use a vt for my hitch, which i useultra tech,,,,in the past 2 months ive burned up the cover twice, on short descents so i'm puzzled to this as well ive noticed while using a vt w/ the fly rope the rope cankles(twists), any reasons to this,, i'm using a 4 up 2 crosses down vt anyone had these same probs..?

 

[Lumberjack]

Originally posted by TreeJunkie
fly rope the rope cankles(twists), any reasons to this,, i'm using a 4 up 2 crosses down vt anyone had these same probs..?

Down here cankles are ankles that dont show and the leg just runs into the foot.

 

[NickfromWI]

Splicing the Sta-set for use as a hitch cord is a pain in butt. It's doable, though. However, it's just not worth it. I was doing it for a while. The bury of the splice makes the rope thick and stiff for much of the cord. It greatly alters how your friction hitch reacts with your climbing line.

Stick with the single braids if you're going to be splicing hitch-cords!

love
nick

 

[TreeJunkie]

Rocky thanks for the tip, I'd been taking the top over the bottom leg on the crosses, that actually makes alot of sense, thanks for the explanation....

LJ,,,yeah they call that the same around here but i try to seperate my work terms from jacking around terms,,,i guess double meanings...Possibly..

Nick what are you referring to as single braids for tress cords,,,16strand???? Please explain...

 

[NickfromWI]

Single braid and hollow braid are the same thing. It refers to ropes like Yalex and Tenex. These are both made of polyester. Yale makes a vectran hollow braid called Vectrus...all the good rope manufacturers have different types of high-modulus single braids. Some of them would be good for hitch cords.

love
nick