splicing

[david miller]

I'm having a problem trying to splice a eye on new England tachyon or I.E lava
the problem is getting the core(that's been pulled out) to insert threw the cover and run along the core that inside the cover, it to tight for the fid 7/16 to pass threw I try a 3/8 fid, no matter how much I pucker the cover, it tight

 

[JeffL]

Pull, not push. You'll have to come up with some sort of wire fid to snare the core and pull it back through.

 

[pdqdl]

I'm not familiar with that type of rope, and have never spliced it.

Consider using a different type of fid. The wire fids work much better for splicing double braid or other tightly woven rope.

I only use my fid collection as measuring sticks for marking the ropes. Then I get out the wire fids that I have made to pull the splices through. Sometimes there is not even room for a wire fid, and it is necessary to tie a string to the section of rope being pulled. [Velocity is TIGHTLY woven!]

Check out some of the excellent splicing posts by Moray.

This one shows his wire fid technique:
http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=66833&highlight=wire+fid

 

[RacerX]

I spliced some Velocity once and couldn't get the circular fid all the way to the end either since the rope is so tight. I made a wire fid out of a 3' piece of 1/8" electricians snake by heating at the center with a torch and bending it in half. Two 90° bends on the ends made hooks to grab the rope. I needed to wet the rope and hit it with a mallet to finally bury the splice. Circular fids work OK on less tight rope like Stable-braid but other ropes require different tools.

 

[pdqdl]

I think the tubular fids are useless for anything but hollow braid rope. They aren't even that good as measuring sticks, but the ones from Samson are at least clearly marked for "1/2 fid" and "full fid" lengths. Guesswork and math are unnecessecary.

I bought the set of tubular fids before I had learned that they are useless for double braid or other tightly woven rope. I suppose I would get them anyway, since they are known to be the right measurements for each kind of rope splice. I have 1/4" through 9/16", so I am ready for almost any splice.

 

[david miller]

thanks guy, about 3 weekend trying to get this rope splice I try the string trying to pull the core but that kept breaking or pulling off i try making somthing to pull threw

 

[pdqdl]

If you are having trouble pulling a tail into the rope, try tying off the "work zone" further back on the rope than recommended in the splicing instructions. This may give you more slack to pull something in.

If you are having trouble pulling the cover back down the core on a double braid to finish the splice, try tying off the entire rope to a secure point, and then pulling VERY tight the core & crossover being buried. Use an ascender, or some sort of prussic to hold the core as tight as you can inside the loose cover. This will compress the core (containing the buried cover) enough for you to pull the unburied cover down until it goes over the crossover point.

Until I did that, I was unable to splice my Velocity.
I was splicing at home, and hooked the rope to the bumper of my car to stretch it nice & tight. Not the best method, but it worked.

 

[JeffL]

I lube up the core with hand soap and pull it through with a wire fid. That and a little bending and massaging it through the tight spot seems to get it through. The worst for me on the few I've done is when the 2 cores pass each other, once I'm past that hump, literally, I feel I'm more than half done. I'm so happy to see the end of that fid exiting back out the cover!