question,and old timer and i were experimenting with a stairstep cut similiar to the step dutchman but no angle all square,picture two steps where the humboldt should be,and that was all it was,well in tall timber if done properly this would preload the weight of the tree and somehow make the tree gain distance from the stump?(we decided that you would have to have much taller trees maybe 4 log trees)well my good friend earl r.i.p.and i decided that our trees were not tall enough to get proper preload,even after all these years still curious?so if you get bored one day i know boring a tree is a pain in the ars!but who knows could work?if you get results it would be cool to know! kill as many of them as you can!