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the thing i don't understand about tree work is why do companies pass their edge along to the customer with a lower price because they can do the job quicker with better equipment.
i work in new york and evey once in a while i use a tree service from new jersey to come over with his crane for big removal work. i had a tree at 4700.00 he came over and the job was down and cleaned up by 2:00. i paid him 1500.00 for the crane rental and bucket. he said in new jersey he would be lucky to get 2700.00 for the same tree. because by him there are alot of big tree's and most tree sevice's have cranes. but instead of useing it to their advantage the pass it along to the customer. the most i ever got for a single removal was 6200.00. i had him bring his whole crew as well as my own and i just split the day with him. he said in new jersey it would be a 3800.00 tree. i'm only over a bridge and 20 miles away from their area.
 
Two words: Competitive Pricing.

You saw what happened in the cell phone industry as technology improved - more people rushed in with the technology, and prices dropped. Analogous to trees.

Nickrosis

This site is giving me problems tonight.
 
I do not try to pass on any competitive edge to the customer. If anything, charge more. That edge will get you out of there faster (saves you man hours) but it also gives you more time to mop up and pay attention to details.

It all depends on what kind of target group you have. Removals are seldom where I make my money because I do not pass this competitive edge on and in removals, price rules period!! Not education, experience, or client relationship. My focus group are those individuals desiring quality tree care over a period of time. Those that view trees as potential property assets via management or property liabilities via mismanagement. Maybe this group simply because I can make money on my salesmanship and mini-lectures.

At times I envy people who make money on big removals. It all boils down to buying and selling man hours. I try to sell high.

Off to vacation
 
There are 2 ways to making a company work in this industry.

1. Chace every lead you have and price competatively. If you work removals, this is the way yo will go in a tight market.

2. Build a client base on good work and customer service. It is harder to start, but pays in the long run. Talk to the people, let them know you care about their property. If you walk the property and they don't need work, tell them. Just stayn in touch.
 
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Forest you will do great in florida, i think anyone with a little common sence and decent work ethic can do really well in the tree biz, to work in an area such as fl with all the wind they get you would have to blow it big time not to make more than you can working for someone else.

I think its kinda funny the million price on the ts , wonder if you would have a million of anything to sell working for someone else in the labor field.

sthil; chainsaws have been good to me and pouland have been great for taking the beating and keep running they are cheap and disposible.
 
Originally posted by rborist1
Back to the good old days.............classic Arboristsite! :D

i think these resurrected threads are of some of the worst, not best as classics should be; and kinda showing some of the same stuff we complain about someone else in another thread.

:alien:
 
Some of these threads bring out the worst in people. A little bit of righteous indignation can turn some into a real monster and they seem to think their abusive behaviour is justified. I am sure some of these characters like "beginner" were just trolling and should have been snuffed early. Trolls being pulled apart by the wolves is not a pretty picture for someone just visiting the site.
I don't appreciate nastiness especially when you know it is being affected for an audience. That is calculated nastiness not a quick temper. I try to camouflage mine in sarcasm to sweeten the pills!

Frank
 
Originally posted by Crofter
Some of these threads bring out the worst in people. A little bit of righteous indignation can turn some into a real monster and they seem to think their abusive behaviour is justified. I am sure some of these characters like "beginner" were just trolling and should have been snuffed early. Trolls being pulled apart by the wolves is not a pretty picture for someone just visiting the site.
I don't appreciate nastiness especially when you know it is being affected for an audience. That is calculated nastiness not a quick temper. I try to camouflage mine in sarcasm to sweeten the pills!

Frank

Frank, I think you are plagaraizing someone on the site. Oh yeah, yourself.:D ;)
 
Little mix up. Seems it wasnt where I thought I'd posted so I gave it another ***. Kinda fits either thread though!
 
good luck Forrest!

we started with two guys,two saws,and a toyota truck.still going strong.your time is worth money and so is your equipment.don't underbid yourself.my partner lets me do the bidding because he hasn't grasped it all yet.he still says,"that sounds kinda high!" and again i remind him time is money.doen't matter if your in the tree cutting or driving to the landfill.every minute your not at home relaxing or at the gun range,you should be getting paid!
 
Forrest has been out of the tree business for a few yrs now.This thread is kinda old.
 
I started my business with about $300. I also did it without having insurance (illegal), putting ads in people's mail boxes (illegal), and without enough experience to work safely (stupid). Somehow I made it. Don't do what I did!

You're a business major, so you probably know all about business plans. If you can't make it work on paper, don't do it.
 
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