Steel cable

[treemandan]

Well, the one guy just wants me to fix the steel cable that popped out of one of his big codom ash trees.

I think it has been put in with dead-ends and I totally do not know how to use them. Sounds bad huh?

You can't just put these thing on by hand can you? Don't you need something to get the final twist by the thimble to line up the paint marks?

I haven't done this in a long time. I am not sure I am even going to try to fix what is up there now but any input would be appreciated.

 

[tree MDS]

The dan dont have cabling supplies?

Personally I find the splices and common grade (soft cable) easier to work with. though supposedly not nearly as strong.

I cant really remember how to do the EHS (though I'm sure I could figure it out sinse I used to know), but I can remember always fighting with the final twist it seems.

Admittedly, cabling is not my one of my strong points.

 

[treemandan]

The dan dont have cabling supplies?

Personally I find the splices and common grade (soft cable) easier to work with. though supposedly not nearly as strong.

I cant really remember how to do the EHS (though I'm sure I could figure it out sinse I used to know), but I can remember always fighting with the final twist it seems.

Admittedly, cabling is not my one of my strong points.

No, but he has an ultralite. One of the clubs around here is looking for members, I think I am going to go for it.

A while ago I worked with this guy

Rick Landis of Landis Tree outta Montgomeryville Pa. That's him waxing my truck down in sunny Ambler. He's pretty... good. He is pretty big to, one time I smacked him across his naked calves with a fishing pole and he gave me a bear hug which compacted the turds in my intestines, constipation set it. that is when I figured I would be safer just shooting at him with the BB gun from a distance. That is when I found out not only is he big, but pretty dam fast too.

Anyway I did do good amount with him, it was the soft steel which we spliced onto lag bolts. All just basic stuff.
Of course I have cabled with other people to along the way, they always used lag bolts, dead ends, etc. I think it just takes 2 pair of channel locks to twist the dead-end.
But I never liked it. Nor the lags. I used what they gave me, sometimes what they gave me wasn't enough, sometimes not even close. Like this cable I am suppose to fix on this ash. Forget it. It popped out once now they want me to go up there and winch it back real tight and hook it back up. They said I might need to drill a new lag hole. I told the HO I would put in 1 dynamic system run for 200 but we should look at more than just one run.
I did not originally install this cable but know the guy who did. He didn't actually do it, one of " his climbers" did, so called climbers that is. Who knows.
So the HO called me for an opinion and mine opinion obvviously costs to much to install. So the HO called the other guy who said he would fix it for 125... then he called me. The guy who originally installed it that is. For some reason he still thinks I am going to go winch this rather heavy tree together, drill a lag, set the old cable and let loose the come-a-long. I said I would do everything but the last part.
I guess the story is getting outta hand again? Sorry. How do you think I feel?

So, basically, I guess through this I sort of remember what you need to do to get the dead-end tight. I had the idea in my mind that you were supposed to get the paint marks to line up? I have never seen a specific tool I rememeber. I do remember it being more of a pain than splicing that dynamic rope.

 

[tree MDS]

Lags suck dan. You need eyebolts at least. This is why I like the soft cable, you just cut it long (its cheap) and make up one end on the ground first (or have the ground guy do it if he's competent - lol), then bring it up, tighten one end mostly, then go over to the other side, cut to legnth, leave an appropriate amount of bolt sticking out so that when you burry it, it tightens the cable. Then snug the other end up, trim bolts/peen over ends - done! oh, wait, pay me! Works for me.

But this is generally the farthest I've cared to get involved with cabling, I'm sure there are better ways.

As far as that dynamic crap dan...lets not overthink this thing man! What do you want to buy half the sherrill cat. just to cable one tree? Just borrow some cabling stuff from someone maybe? Thats what I did for the occaisional cable before I bought mine.

And never let the HO tell you what to do dan! You know better than that being "the dan" and all!

 

[tree MDS]

Sorry dan, I missed the part where you talked about splicing. There I go being flippant again, lol.

Cut me some slack, I got a nasty cold/flu thing going on. Answering your post helped me forget my misery for a miniute.

 

[treemandan]

Lags suck dan. You need eyebolts at least. This is why I like the soft cable, you just cut it long (its cheap) and make up one end on the ground first (or have the ground guy do it if he's competent - lol), then bring it up, tighten one end mostly, then go over to the other side, cut to legnth, leave an appropriate amount of bolt sticking out so that when you burry it, it tightens the cable. Then snug the other end up, trim bolts/peen over ends - done! oh, wait, pay me! Works for me.

But this is generally the farthest I've cared to get involved with cabling, I'm sure there are better ways.

As far as that dynamic crap dan...lets not overthink this thing man! What do you want to buy half the sherrill cat. just to cable one tree? Just borrow some cabling stuff from someone maybe? Thats what I did for the occaisional cable before I bought mine.


I guess you didn't see my swing? I don't think that is a place for a cable. Anyway no, it was always the lags up there. Not to bad for smaller stuff I guess.
sure I have tons of cabling supplies, I keep them at the cabling stuff supply store.

I bought 100 feet of dynamic for my stuff at my house and will sell it if they want it. You know every situation calls for something different and I don't talk no chit. I do tend to over do it so the final result is garanteed to make the cut, I do have a reputation to uphold.


Did ya see my swing?

 

[tree MDS]

No dan, I didnt see your swing??

I'm sure I will though, "picture boy", lol.

 

[treemandan]

No dan, I didnt see your swing??

I'm sure I will though, "picture boy", lol.

Its in the post "dynamic tree support" from yesterday a few threads down. I have been catching up on chores around the house finally but really now itching for a scratch. I have a few jobs and today rain. Tax stuff needs done but I am to rammy. Who cares about that stuff anyway?

 

[treemandan]

No dan, I didnt see your swing??

I'm sure I will though, "picture boy", lol.

Oh, and it might just be the best one yet.

 

[JeffL]

The almighty Dan can't reset a cable!? But it's mere childs play! Stihl BT45 for the win!

 

[treemandan]

The almighty Dan can't reset a cable!? But it's mere childs play! Stihl BT45 for the win!

Well for one the set-up is wrong and headed for disaster. Its to short, not in the right place, and way over-matched. I will go take some pics.

Now Jeff, once again we have come to this place. I am trying real hard and I kinda like you. I do see you trying to but you did forget to capitlize Almighty. It might surely be easy but what is easy ain't always right.

I don't reaaly know all the laws concerning a cabled tree but I know if I do something that changes another thing I am liable. The way some of you guys sound you are out to get The Dan as it is.

don't worry, its all fun but what really perplexes me is that most people call me Mister Dan

 

[Ed*L]

Dan....How close to you is the EAB infestation? You might wan't to discuss treatment with the homeowner if he really wants to save the tree.

Ed

 

[treemandan]

Dan....How close to you is the EAB infestation? You might wan't to discuss treatment with the homeowner if he really wants to save the tree.

Ed

That is the last thing HO wants to hear and if he did hear it he would quickly disregard it.
The tree is in my neighborhood which is festooned with neglected codom ash. All except the one over my house. A lot of these trees are so bent and droopy there is not much you can do about it and the people have higher priorities.

My suggestion is removal. These trees have severe targets. My other suggestion is to plant new trees. I am going to take a walk, take some pics, I will be right back. When I returned you can ask me again if they are going to listen to reason.

 

[treemandan]

Jeff! Get yor ass back here.

turn your screen.

The broken cable no more than half way up, there is only one.

Lower union

 

[treemandan]

 

[tree MDS]

Dan....How close to you is the EAB infestation? You might wan't to discuss treatment with the homeowner if he really wants to save the tree.

Ed

Does anyone know if EAB is a signifigant pest to trees other than Ash?

 

[treemandan]

No, not a total nightmare but that cable ain't right. if it was it wouldn't be in the shape it is now nor is just one run gonna do dik.

Now for some other stuff that has been hanging around

 

[Ed*L]

Does anyone know if EAB is a signifigant pest to trees other than Ash?

Ash only.

Ed

 

[treemandan]

this is the top of that last silver

 

[Ed*L]

Quite a few removal candidates there.........

Ed