Stihl 032 Condenser Failures
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On post #20 showing the chip.
What is the part numbers and market price for that chip?
AND you might think about this one about your condensers failing.
The condenser does not have to be under the flywheel, it can be re-located on the kill wire outside the flywheel. It only requires a good connection to the kill wire and a good ground on the condenser's case. Make sure it's grounded good. Most auto type condensers only use the metal case as the ground.
I have a very old 028 Stihl that the condenser failed (it opened with no capacitance) few years ago and I installed a automotive condenser outside the flywheel as first test to confirm bad condenser and ran the saw for long time until I got a tool to set the points and put a new OEM back under the flywheel.
I've re-located the condenser on several old engines from under the points box or flywheel to a more user friendly location like to the neg post area of the ignition coil on battery operated ignitions.
My point is you can install a condenser on the kill wire outside the flywheel without having to mess around under the flywheel. Just disconnect the cap's wire under the flywheel if you think the cap is erratic like opening intermittently, etc, and install the test cap outside. Automotive type points condensers are usually a better made condenser than the small compact condensers.
In answer to your question about your condensers failing. They are the compact type and more wimpy than the larger automotive ones due to the way the are built inside and they can dry out. I think you just have a bad run on wimpy and some China condensers.
What is the part numbers and market price for that chip?
AND you might think about this one about your condensers failing.
The condenser does not have to be under the flywheel, it can be re-located on the kill wire outside the flywheel. It only requires a good connection to the kill wire and a good ground on the condenser's case. Make sure it's grounded good. Most auto type condensers only use the metal case as the ground.
I have a very old 028 Stihl that the condenser failed (it opened with no capacitance) few years ago and I installed a automotive condenser outside the flywheel as first test to confirm bad condenser and ran the saw for long time until I got a tool to set the points and put a new OEM back under the flywheel.
I've re-located the condenser on several old engines from under the points box or flywheel to a more user friendly location like to the neg post area of the ignition coil on battery operated ignitions.
My point is you can install a condenser on the kill wire outside the flywheel without having to mess around under the flywheel. Just disconnect the cap's wire under the flywheel if you think the cap is erratic like opening intermittently, etc, and install the test cap outside. Automotive type points condensers are usually a better made condenser than the small compact condensers.
In answer to your question about your condensers failing. They are the compact type and more wimpy than the larger automotive ones due to the way the are built inside and they can dry out. I think you just have a bad run on wimpy and some China condensers.
WIMA capacitor I got them from Mouser electronics in Ontario 10 for about $1 each plus shipping.
Not sure how long it will last but they are easy to get and easy to install.
When you see how those .22 condensers are made, the materials used internally (foil wrapped) you will wonder how they last as long as they do?
A lot of of guys repairing really old outboard motors use the Wima caps.Some guys mount the new capaciators in the old condensor can to make it look original.I have not experenced a lot of condensor failures if I don"t have the correct cap I sub what ever is handy auto old snow mobile lawn mower etc.They are all usually between 15 and 25 micro farads. I have used chips also but put as far away from heat as possible.I really don"t think one coil is any harder on a module than another.A coil is just a series of windings.I have used second hand Kawasaki modules on several different motors.My buddy had some one steal just the module of his John deere mower with a Kawasaki engine.I gave him a module from Princess Auto it is still working three years later.
I have a 1929 kohler generator with an American Bosch magneto that is used about 500 hours a year .The points are NLA and I have probably filed the points a dozen times over the years.That old 4 cylinder magneto will shoot a 1/2 inch spark to ground with clean points set to 13 thousands.It looks like a tiny lightning bolt.Best piece of machinery I have ever owned.
Kash
I have a 1929 kohler generator with an American Bosch magneto that is used about 500 hours a year .The points are NLA and I have probably filed the points a dozen times over the years.That old 4 cylinder magneto will shoot a 1/2 inch spark to ground with clean points set to 13 thousands.It looks like a tiny lightning bolt.Best piece of machinery I have ever owned.
Kash
Have you got a part number or a link to the ones you are talking about?
In post #20 by PogoInTheWoods???????????
What is the model or part number of that chip in the picture????????????
I had a prolonged run around with a 031 of mine ignition wise....ran a chip for awhile but wasn't real happy butit did run to full rpm and no misfire. I later dug into my partner parts and fitted the biggest partner condencer from I think a r35 or something. mounted outside the flywheel....runs great...light pull on the cord warm and it running.
good luck
good luck
In post #20 on pg 1
Anyone have any idea about
What is the model or part number of that chip in the picture????????????
Anyone have any idea about
What is the model or part number of that chip in the picture????????????
Sorry for the delayed response. Notifications for this thread were disabled for some reason and I just happened to notice the recent activity when checking my 'watched threads' list this morning.
The chip in the pic is the common Oregon 33-053. Your basic Mega Fire module. https://www.oregonproducts.com/en/universal-ignition-module/p/33-053
The chip in the pic is the common Oregon 33-053. Your basic Mega Fire module. https://www.oregonproducts.com/en/universal-ignition-module/p/33-053
