Stihl 036 Pro - Question about rebuilding

[mushing_madness]

I have a Stihl 036 pro saw that is about 7 years old. I borrowed (I know - don't say remind me) it to my neighbor, and it is now dead. It has scoring in the cylinder, and the piston is toast. I brought it into the local dealer, but they want 280 for a cylinder/piston kit, and 70 for labor ($350 total) to fix it. Looking on eBay, I see the cylinder/piston kits for 75-125 bucks. I'm pretty mechanically inclined (rebuilt motors, like to mod my equipment, etc).

Question: what else is required besides a piston/cylinder kit? It looks from the surface like a fairly straight forward job. Anything I should know before I spend $75-100 bucks to try and resurrect my baby?

Thanks in advance!

 

[Lakeside53]

not much.. a cylinder base gasket, but buy a service manual first...

Usually it's pretty straight forward to swap a piston and cylinder and you don't need any special tools. You do need to find out why it scored in the first place or you'll repeat the event.

 

[beelsr]

I have a Stihl 036 pro saw that is about 7 years old. I borrowed (I know - don't say remind me) it to my neighbor, and it is now dead. It has scoring in the cylinder, and the piston is toast. I brought it into the local dealer, but they want 280 for a cylinder/piston kit, and 70 for labor ($350 total) to fix it. Looking on eBay, I see the cylinder/piston kits for 75-125 bucks. I'm pretty mechanically inclined (rebuilt motors, like to mod my equipment, etc).

Question: what else is required besides a piston/cylinder kit? It looks from the surface like a fairly straight forward job. Anything I should know before I spend $75-100 bucks to try and resurrect my baby?

Thanks in advance!

I was at my dealer tonight to pick up a part and order some more and a guy came in with the same problem. Beautiful looking little 020 AV. Lent it to his son. Fool put straight gas in it.

The guy was kind of upset and said, "I should have known better. There's two things in this world you never loan out: Your wife. And your chainsaw."

 

[Griffbm3]

Actually pretty easy

Not really hard at all. But like Lake said, find the source. Cheapstihlparts on Ebay does carry a lot of parts, and has the gasket you need for $3.75. I have ordered from him before, as also Bailey's used parts, a site sponsor.

A little patience, and a T-27 and your in business. The manual will give you the torque specs for re-assembly, and the part numbers for the "spare parts" at the end of your project. There is a lot of info in the search function of this site, I pretty much did my 036 rebuild from that, and I asked some questions too.

Good luck, let us know how it goes...
Jason

 

[mushing_madness]

Thanks for the input. It looked pretty straight forward, but wanted to check before I dug in. Thanks for the recommendation on suppliers.

As to the source, it was due to loaning it to the neighbor. He wanted to save my gas, that I borrowed with the saw, for my use, and used his own--straight gas--and that was that.

Guess I'll have to pick up a service manual as well for those torque specs.

MM

 

[bcorradi]

Curt Bailey a site sponsor should have all the parts your looking for. He is also in NC so time in transit should be extremely short. I've dealt with him many times and he is great to deal with.

 

[mushing_madness]

I'll check him out, as well as the others. I tore into the saw this morning, and there is not much to it. 15 minutes to tear the beast down and get the cylinder & piston out. It was toast. There was quite a bit of scoring below the exhaust port on the cylinder.

Now I just have to order and get the new kit here so I can get this thing running again.

Thanks for the help everyone.

MM

 

[beelsr]

I'll check him out, as well as the others. I tore into the saw this morning, and there is not much to it. 15 minutes to tear the beast down and get the cylinder & piston out. It was toast. There was quite a bit of scoring below the exhaust port on the cylinder.

Now I just have to order and get the new kit here so I can get this thing running again.

Thanks for the help everyone.

MM

Curt also was offering a discount to members here - check his forum for details. I think it's a thread started by Begleytree.

Also, check your PMs.

 

[RiverRat2]

Piston/cylinder Kit

if ya cant find one from Baileys you can try here.....

http://www.mfgsupply.com/ChainSaw.html/mv_session_id=tx5eRCf6

Good luck.....

 

[bcorradi]

They sell tecomec kits which are really good also, but i don't believe they have a tecomec 036 kit.

The Bailey's I was referring to was the private invidual (Curt Bailey a site sponsor) not the corporation (which is also a sponsor). Having two sponsors on here that can be easily referred to as Bailey's gets confusing at times.

 

[Lakeside53]

I'm pretty sure cheapstihlsawsparts has NOS 036 - genuine Stihl. Be sure to specify decomp valve version or not...

 

[RiverRat2]

They sell tecomec kits which are really good also, but i don't believe they have a tecomec 036 kit.

The Bailey's I was referring to was the private invidual (Curt Bailey a site sponsor) not the corporation (which is also a sponsor). Having two sponsors on here that can be easily referred to as Bailey's gets confusing at times.

I'm pretty sure cheapstihlsawsparts has NOS 036 - genuine Stihl. Be sure to specify decomp valve version or not...

Either way you end up ya cant go wrong unless ya lend your saw out again but its not likely,,,, The only way I lend any of my saw out is if I'm with em, and only my fuel is used,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

End of story,,, Been burnt the same way,,,,, :bang: :bang: :bang:

 

[GASoline71]

Yup... the only way I "lend out" my saws is if I go with them and do the cuttin'. No other way to do it.

Sorry to hear about your misfortune... a lot of good advice has been given. I have also dealt with Curt Bailey and Bryce (cheapstihlsawparts). Both are upstanding gents that run good businesses.

Gary

 

[mushing_madness]

I just wanted to stop by and say thanks to everyone for helping out. I talked with curt and ordered a piston a while back. I ended up putting a hone to the cylinder and resurfaced the bore. The new piston and rings went in and I have a saw that is cranking again! Now that all seems good (cut up a bunch of trees over the past week), I need to go get me a new bar/chain....and no, I won't be borrowing out my saw again! I might borrow me out to help - I cut you haul/load/unload/stack , but the saw will have to be pryed from my cold dead fingers!

Thanks for all the help! By the way, I did a quick muffler mod on it while I was at it...gotta love the things you learn on these sites!

MM

 

[KMB]

...gotta love the things you learn on these sites!

MM

Yep...and still learning!

Kevin

 

[SteveH]

Glad the rebuild went well. Glad, too, because that's the saw I use and hope to keep on using. And learn: don't loan out a saw. I don't loan out: saws, airplane, guitar, dogs, or wife.

I can just imagine loaning someone my saw and he cuts off his leg, comes after me, or the family does. Never heard of that happening, but....

I was one of those guys in the old days who would not lend out a vinyl record, though.

 

[chainsawjunky]

Yep I don't loan stuff. As a general rule I don't loan tools. But getting to the point, what does NOS mean(I know what it means pertaining to racing).

Evan

 

[BostonBull]

Yep I don't loan stuff. As a general rule I don't loan tools. But getting to the point, what does NOS mean(I know what it means pertaining to racing).

Evan

Not loaning tools out is a great way to keep them in tip top shape and keep the blood pressure down if they come bck broken.

NOS====New Old Stock meaning something that isnt made anymore but is new in the box, never used.

 

[chainsawjunky]

And what about WOT?

Evan

 

[Lakeside53]

Wide Open Throttle... Typically done with bar AND chain.