stihl 084 chain(In the right place now)

[pdqdl]

A big saw is a big saw. Nobody makes a bad one, and they all cut about the same. Start the engine, apply to tree. Squeeze trigger, watch the sawdust fly.

Brand of saw is irrelevant to what chain you prefer.

Die-hards for their favorite brand will disagree.

 

[Wolfking42084]

I'm no diehard to any brand. I know brands that are more dependable than others. The torque and rpm of a saw have everything in the world to do with chain selection. Will most any chain on any saw cut wood, sure, but if you're selective and know what you're doing, you realize certain chains perform better with certain saws.

 

[pdqdl]

Well.... That is certainly true, but in this conversation it has more to do with what kind of wood you are cutting and how the saw is being used.

 

[Wolfking42084]

I agree with you 100%. For the people who run 2 different length bars on their big saw, what is the biggest bar anyone uses

 

[Gumnuts]

084
Got a 60 " Mostly using 36"....42'' if needed
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In regards to chain really depends on what your cutting.

Stumps or dropping - 404 semi or full

Bucking - skip or semi,404 ,Prefer semi....but have bucked a couple of medium HW with the semi 3/8 ......none have let go.

Milling - been using semi and skip 404 .....true ,skip dulls quicker.Recently changed to 3/8 semi for milling .Faster and cleaner cut.........consensus in the
milling forum ....NOT HEARING OF ANY 3/8 LETTING GO.ASSUMING IT'S EASIER ON THE CHAIN HARDER ON THE SAW....as the bar and chain are not getting rocked around so much !!!
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[046]

just checked on pricing between 404 and 3/8 chain... both full skip, square/.063 for a 48in bar

two loops of 404 = $86

two loops of 3/8 = $57

100ft roll of 3/8 full skip, square, .063 = $229 + shipping
one roll makes ten 4ft chains

didn't get pricing for a roll 404 yet. 3/8 out sells 404 by a wide margin.

 

[jomoco]

A big saw is a big saw. Nobody makes a bad one, and they all cut about the same. Start the engine, apply to tree. Squeeze trigger, watch the sawdust fly.

Brand of saw is irrelevant to what chain you prefer.

Die-hards for their favorite brand will disagree.

BS Pdqdl, you try putting a Canon 6 foot bar on an 880 and base cutting a stone dead blue gum euc with a 12 foot base, then get back to me on the many virtues an 084 has over an 880 partner.

Cutting huge dead bases with long bars requires huge quantities of bar oil that only a manual oiler can deliver, and that's a fact that Stihl forgot like a bunch of twits.

jomoco

 

[skid row]

When I bought my 084 back in 1989 I had the dealer change out the .404 pitch bar sprocket nose for a .375 tip. It was alot easier to find .375 full chisel chain than .404 chain.

The manual push button oiler overide on the 084 was something the EPA put a stop to. Stihl didn't have a choice in that matter. Now the big saws have less oil pumping to the long bars. I have noticed more burnt long bars lately on the big saws than 20 years ago.

 

[rmihalek]

heavy duty 3/8ths

I recall reading in the Madsen's catalog (Madsens1.com) about an Oregon 3/8ths chain built specifically for large saws running long bars. The chain was designed for west coast big timber cutters who switched from .404 to 3/8ths. but then realized that the powerful saws were breaking regular 3/8ths chains.

The nice thing about keeping everything at 3/8ths pitch is that you can swap bars with out having to change the rim, which is kind of tricky to do in the field.

 

[Wolfking42084]

So already having the 36" bar, do you guys like the stihl 59" or 60" whatever it is? Or is there something out of say bailey's that is just as good and cheaper?

 

[pdqdl]

BS Pdqdl, you try putting a Canon 6 foot bar on an 880 and base cutting a stone dead blue gum euc with a 12 foot base, then get back to me on the many virtues an 084 has over an 880 partner.

Cutting huge dead bases with long bars requires huge quantities of bar oil that only a manual oiler can deliver, and that's a fact that Stihl forgot like a bunch of twits.

jomoco

I'm afraid I couldn't do that.

1. No euc's around here, stone dead, blue, or otherwise.
2. I can't comment on the differences between an 084 and an 880. I don't own either, although I have used a couple, just a few times.
3. My big saw is a 3120 Husqvarna, and the biggest bar I need around here is 50". And it never runs out of oil in a cut, no matter how dead the cottonwood/oak/maple that I run into. And no, it doesn't have a manual oiler.

I would suggest that if you are running a monster bar and aren't getting enough oil, you should modify your saw to get what you need out of it. Oilers are not that complicated, and I'll bet I could ramp one up to dump profuse quantities of oil, if I wanted to.

So quit yer whining. If you don't like it, fix it. How long has it been since you could buy a new 084?

Wasn't this thread talking about chain types? I didn't realize that it had turned into a Stihl bashing thread.