stihl 090 vs 075

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looking to buy either a 075 or 090,maybe both if the wife doesn't find out.I've stumped a couple trees here and there and now am looking to do some millwork.Is the 090 that much more powerfull?The 075 strikes me as lean and mean.Give me some input as i've not tried either.
 
I'm not a Stihl guy, so don't know the fine details, but the 090 has gathered about itself quite a mystique...prices are high, and nice ones are hard to find, or maybe pry loose from the folks that have 'em.

If you can get an 075 at an attractive price, I'm sure they would be fine for most work...I think they are bigger than a friend's old 051, which is a powerful (and heavy) saw. He mills with that, does OK.

There are plenty of newer saws that would do well if you can't get an 090 at a decent price...and they have the advantage of current parts availablility. My buddy was able to get a clutch for his old 051, but for the price was shocking.
 
cliff1972 has a very nice 090 for sale right now on the calssifieds. Cliff is a standup guy. I have dealt with him on his purchase of a EHP7900.
You may want to drop him a message, he seems to have a very nice 090.
Hunter
 
090

already talked to cliff1972.trying to find a way to get the cash without the wife finding out.(just had twins-two boys).
 
I'd give up my 090 long before I'd ever hand over my 075. They are both equally slow in stock form. 075 is lighter, and substantially less bulky. Parts are going to be much, much easier to get for the 075. Reason being it shares a lot of parts with the current TS510 and 760 chopsaws, and old 050, 051, 076 chainsaws. And the 051 is 89cc, the 075 111cc, 090 137cc.

Plus, I have a somewhat sentimental attachment to it. It was first saw I ever bought and repaired myself.

Good luck, Chris B.
 
If you are wanting to buy a saw to mill lumber with why are you not looking at buying a new saw. You will put a ton of hours on a saw milling. The 090 has a great following, mainly do to it being the biggest saw around. I have two 090's as of now but I do not use them daily. A good 090 will go for $600-$1000. The parts are hard to get from Stihl. You can buy a new Husky 3120 for $950 and a new Stihl 088 for $1050-$1100. They will fit your needs much better. Obviously a 075 would be cheaper but I still believe milling is very hard on a saw and a new saw will be a better choice.

Bill
 
075..please

Steve here... I have had 3 075's... And have 3 090's now.The 075 can't get out of it's own way. They have no chain speed, it reminded me of an old Zip, I still buy 090 parts at my local dealer. The two 090's I run, have the gov spring over wound. They spin around 9500 to 10000 in the wood. An 075 spins around 7500 in the wood.
 
075 or 090

to answer bills' question first,your points are well taken it's just it seems to me that plastic is the number one material with saws these days and i'd like to stick with the old.As to steves'answer,i agree,the 075s' only running at 7500,but you're talking 110 worth of torque.doesn't that count for anything?would it be worth it to mod it to run faster?
 
Modded 075??

Steve here... From the outside an 075 looks more than worthy of modding, but when you take the saw apart you soon find the long skinny exhaust trac, that goes from the top of the motor(carbside)
and exits out the side of the engine behind the clutch. Per KD it's not real condusive to big gains in engine mods.
Steve


Here is a pic of my modified Home d lite Super 2100 Auto. Notice the carb on top...like the 075... notice the exhaust comming out the side...unlike the 075. The 075 exhaust port is up on top right above the intake port. The exhaust then snakes down to the side of the clutch where it exits
 
075

steve,nice saw.gotta sound sweet at 7 in the morning!thanks for the info.although i'm not new to cutting trees,i am new to saws.what would you use for milling a 90 year old,3.5 foot diameter maple?i'm making a mill in my shop,so that's taken care of,but i want advice on the best all around saw.thanks,robert.
 
An observation,not a pissen contest

You can't compare a Homie 2100,with an 075 Stihl.I have a stock 2100 s,and it is a cutting fool.It was a very advanced saw for it's time.For example,the 6 petal pyramide reeds.This was a little trick from the Kart engines.Probabley the all time classic saws,in order are the 090 Stihl,the Sp 125 McCulloch and the 2100 series Homie.From my observation,and strickley on cubic inches,the 090 will out cut them all.However,some mods will have to be done for this to happen.{Art}It appears to me,you have a big Tillotson Hr,setting on top of that Homie,plus the tuned pipe.Again,I am not being being a smart azz.Bare in mind,the Mac 125,had alittle Tillotson hs,and a set of flat reeds,but also .5 cu. inches bigger,and also had a Kart version,the 101A.Again,I am not being a smart alec,I have fact have several of these old classics.It still delights me to see them out cut,up to. a Stihl 084.[I know this will annoy the Stihl affectionatos},but,as far as an 088,it's yet to be decided.And as for Stihl's,real good saws ,I have several.
 
075 mods

I've never thought that the 075 would hop up very well. z4, those observations you made, I noticed them as well. Not sure why Stihl set the barrel up like that. I have seen a couple 075s where someone hacked off the muffler and left the little pipe. I think I would steer wide clear of those.

Seems to me the piston and crank are too heavy to wind up very high, but as someone once posted, the saw is strong enoughl your ass up and over the log you're bucking. :D

Chris B.
 
090/2100

Al
Steve here... Just a side note... When my 2100 was bone stock it cut faster on the stop watch than my stock 090, same wood same bar and chain. I have beat SP125's with the 090, and . I even beat an SP 125, and a stock 088 with my stock 066A at the saw race I put together at our fair this summer. The 088 had 404 chain on it. The 2100 in mod form is still alittle slower than my 088KD. Notice the Gem V12 reed cage on the Homey. And that carb is a HR191.
Steve

Al my point comparing the Homey to the 075 is the relationship to where the exhaust port is. The exhaust on the Homey is in the correct spot(side). The exhaust on the 075 is on top and like CB said swings down and around with a long thin pipe.

Last summer KD borrowed me a ported 090 cylinder. When I bolted it on the saw I dropped almost 3/4 of a second in little wood from stock.
 
The rest of the story

As Paul Harvey says"now for the rest of the story".The scenaro takes place last Jan.I was called to assist an arborist buddy of mine who had somehow rounded the heads on the 3/4 grade 8 hex bolts which held the knives of his Linden chipper.While I was there,another fellow drives in with 2 old Stihls,that he was proud as a peacock about,an 075,and an 090.It was the only 075,I had ever seen.Sure enough soon the subject of who can out cut who,came up.Well ,I could not pass this up,so I went home and returned with an 048 Stihl,A hopped up Mac 650,gear drive a 2100s Homie and a Mac 125sp.By buddy had an 064,an 066 and an 084.The wood was 24" dry red oak[he's a tree trimmer and has tons of it lying around]Here is the kicker,my pal uses 3/8"semi ,exclusively,buys it a roll at a time.I have 2 indentical Winsor 36" bars,on the 125 and 2100s,and what nobody knew was the fact it was .404 square ground chisel:D The fellow with the old Stihls,had just gotten them.The gov.was still intact on the 090,and while it was powerful, loud,and heavy,It was dead last,on head to head cuts,with the 2100s,125sp and 084.The 075 was dead last,over all.It may not have been tuned right,but it ran slow.The 2100s,barely got the 084.The 125sp was in the lead,by a good 2 or 3 inches on that hard oak.I've been informed,last week,that ole Tom has got himself an 088 and wants a rematch.This was the day for Mac and Homie,next time could be different.It's all in fun anyway:cool: Oh,by the way,I did get his capscrews drilled out of his chipper,and introduced him to Never-seez.
 
Running the 075 reminds of the old tractor races I used to hear about. The operator would tune his tractor to turn over just as slow as it could and be the LAST to the finish line. A lot harder than it sounds.

That low reving 1111 series engine does make for a good demo saw.

Chris B.
 
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