WOLF_RIVER_MIKE
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Otto- just curious as to what a cord brings in your part of Arkansas? Around here (west Tn) it's $80.
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Harley
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Otto,
I feel the same way anymore. The hell with stacking. The area where I'm working right now looks like a bomb went off, cause I have been cutting up everything in sight and letting it lay there.
The thing is I have to move/stack it sometime or another. Its just that cutting is so much more fun.
Harley
I feel the same way anymore. The hell with stacking. The area where I'm working right now looks like a bomb went off, cause I have been cutting up everything in sight and letting it lay there.
The thing is I have to move/stack it sometime or another. Its just that cutting is so much more fun.
Harley
buckwheat
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Central PA = $90 - $130/cord of seasoned split oak (depends on the total purchase), delivered, usually not stacked.
confused
ArboristSite Operative
You guys get that much for split Oak firwood. I have a triaxle dump truck load of Oak i cut up last summer just sitting here at home i have split some of it up for exercise. I didnt know you could sell it for that much. Though i have one question how much is a cord and what would a cord of split Oak go for apprx. Hey i might be able to buy that 385 WXP yet if i can split it all and sell it. 
That would be sweet!!!
Cool thing is there is another full load of wood already cut and stacked up north just has to be split. And twice that much still lying on the ground. I hope it keeps till this spring or summer. I may have just found a way to subsidize my chainsaw addiction.
That would be sweet!!!Cool thing is there is another full load of wood already cut and stacked up north just has to be split. And twice that much still lying on the ground. I hope it keeps till this spring or summer. I may have just found a way to subsidize my chainsaw addiction.
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Harley
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Confused,
Do a search of Firewood. You'll find many sites that tell you how to measure, type of wood, seasoning, etc.. A "Cord" is 128 cu ft or 4' x4' x8'. It's a good bit of wood. About 1 1/2 to 2 tons, depending on wood species.
I have the same thoughts. See my other thread. But you have to factor in that you have to season the wood, split it, and stack it. By the time your done, you really don't make that much money, i.e. less than min wage.
However, I hear that certain areas of the country pay much better. I hear 525$ for San Francisco or someplace like that.
I think if you could find a specialty market, you'd be set. Like BBQ restaurants. I have to find a good supply of hickory though. I can get more for smoking wood than I can get from local lumber mills.
Maybe if I delievered hickory into Philadelphia, I could afford my chainsaw habit.
Do a search of Firewood. You'll find many sites that tell you how to measure, type of wood, seasoning, etc.. A "Cord" is 128 cu ft or 4' x4' x8'. It's a good bit of wood. About 1 1/2 to 2 tons, depending on wood species.
I have the same thoughts. See my other thread. But you have to factor in that you have to season the wood, split it, and stack it. By the time your done, you really don't make that much money, i.e. less than min wage.
However, I hear that certain areas of the country pay much better. I hear 525$ for San Francisco or someplace like that.
I think if you could find a specialty market, you'd be set. Like BBQ restaurants. I have to find a good supply of hickory though. I can get more for smoking wood than I can get from local lumber mills.
Maybe if I delievered hickory into Philadelphia, I could afford my chainsaw habit.
WOLF_RIVER_MIKE
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What is sold for cord wood, at least around here, is actually what they call a face cord. 4' x 16' x 18-20" long. I work right beside a guy that has just moved here from the Santa Cruz area of California. Beautiful country, Redwoods everywhere. He said oak cord wood went for $300 - $325. He said he got a deal once when he bought 2 cords for $425.
tundraotto
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howdy fellas -around here we are selling for $55 delivered, stacked if you fit the bill(within 15miles) and $40 pickup for a "rick" (as its known here). this is 2' x 4' x 8' - cutting to 18" lengths we have altered it to 18" x 5' x 8'.
a "rick" is also known as a facecord here. i dont know why a face cord would be any different anywhere else....
PS. the best part about firewood is if you dont have to do it for a living - lol its toy money!!
a "rick" is also known as a facecord here. i dont know why a face cord would be any different anywhere else...
.PS. the best part about firewood is if you dont have to do it for a living - lol
its toy money!!
buckwheat
ArboristSite Guru
There is one of those upscale nursuries near us that my wife saw was selling firewood by the wagon load..... as in Radio Flyer... for $17. Now that is whatcha call a specialty market!
As far as a business venture, I think the key factor is getting access to a good source of timber in the first place. After that, I would guess that the next largest expense would be insurance. Most firewood suppliers in this area are actually landscapers that cut in the off season, although there are a few "specialists" that I suspect started as homeowners and took it on as a sideline after retiring from their day jobs.
But given how fossil fuel prices have been low and the popularity of ventless gas fireplaces, I think the market is pretty limited.
My gig is actually a church ministry. There are a number of older folks in the area on fixed income who have wood burners, but neither the money or strength to get their own wood. So what started as a few homeowners giving away an occassional load has turned into a neat activity to turn our chainsaw addiction into something good for the community - and we have fun doing it.
As far as a business venture, I think the key factor is getting access to a good source of timber in the first place. After that, I would guess that the next largest expense would be insurance. Most firewood suppliers in this area are actually landscapers that cut in the off season, although there are a few "specialists" that I suspect started as homeowners and took it on as a sideline after retiring from their day jobs.
But given how fossil fuel prices have been low and the popularity of ventless gas fireplaces, I think the market is pretty limited.
My gig is actually a church ministry. There are a number of older folks in the area on fixed income who have wood burners, but neither the money or strength to get their own wood. So what started as a few homeowners giving away an occassional load has turned into a neat activity to turn our chainsaw addiction into something good for the community - and we have fun doing it.
tundraotto
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btw - here was a typical red oak that makes for some nice firewood.
confused
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Alright i have another question. What is seasonning? I have lots and lots of Oak tops that the logger left after stealing one extra tree. Anyways this firewood thing might actually get me into my brand new 385 'W'XP.
Harley
ArboristSite Operative
When you cut wood, assuming it hasn't been dead or taken down by someother force, it's considered green. Green wood has alot of moisture in it. If you can burn it, it won't produce as much heat as it should.
When you season wood, you salt it first then add pepper...
Just kidding. You actually dry it for at least six months. It reduces the amount of water in the wood. I believe wood must have a moisture content of below 20 percent to be considered seasoned. It takes different amounts of time to dry different woods. Also, you need to split the wood, so that it has more surface area to dry.
Thats one of the drawbacks to firewood. You have to let it sit around for awhile before you can sell it.
When you season wood, you salt it first then add pepper...
Just kidding. You actually dry it for at least six months. It reduces the amount of water in the wood. I believe wood must have a moisture content of below 20 percent to be considered seasoned. It takes different amounts of time to dry different woods. Also, you need to split the wood, so that it has more surface area to dry.
Thats one of the drawbacks to firewood. You have to let it sit around for awhile before you can sell it.
tundraotto
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seasoned wood is usually cut the previous year and dried out after being split and stacked. like harley said - the wood must be split before it will dry out properly.
however, many people prefer unseasoned wood especially for heating as it burns slower making nice "overnighters" ie. chunks that you throw in your fireplace at night and dont need to add wood until the next morning.
PS. if you make enough money with the wood to buy a new 385wxp - you will be very proud of it - i promise - lots of very hard monotonous work and a lot of time - splitting is very time consuming....
however, many people prefer unseasoned wood especially for heating as it burns slower making nice "overnighters" ie. chunks that you throw in your fireplace at night and dont need to add wood until the next morning.
PS. if you make enough money with the wood to buy a new 385wxp - you will be very proud of it - i promise - lots of very hard monotonous work and a lot of time - splitting is very time consuming....
Gypo Logger
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Hi there, seasoned firewood has no relation to the time it has been cut, split and piled. there are just to many variables.
Although green wood, processed during the summer months will be dry by Sept., it will start to reabsorb moisture by Oct. and will be just as wet as it was when it was sucking sap on the stump by November.
Consumers are oftened fooled into thinking that seasoned means darkened wood with cracks in the end grain.
Wood can be dried in as little as 7 days if the tree is felled and branches are left intact, as transpiration exhausts the body wood of MC by transpiration thru the leaves. When the leaves have turned brown the cellular structure has collapsed and moisture has been drawn out. The best firewood has been stored in a well ventilated shed or barn where it has never gotten rained on.
John
Although green wood, processed during the summer months will be dry by Sept., it will start to reabsorb moisture by Oct. and will be just as wet as it was when it was sucking sap on the stump by November.
Consumers are oftened fooled into thinking that seasoned means darkened wood with cracks in the end grain.
Wood can be dried in as little as 7 days if the tree is felled and branches are left intact, as transpiration exhausts the body wood of MC by transpiration thru the leaves. When the leaves have turned brown the cellular structure has collapsed and moisture has been drawn out. The best firewood has been stored in a well ventilated shed or barn where it has never gotten rained on.
John
tundraotto
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seasoned wood will stay dry under cover not exposed to rain, snow, etc. wood will not season unless split within a reasonable amount of time.
confused
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dont think ill be makin much money on the firewood stuff. Lots of competition but still can maybe make some cash for my 385 WXP. Goal for the summer to save all the cash i can to waste it on another chainsaw ha ha cant wait.
chainsawworld
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biggest problem with firewood is storeing it to be cut and split.
Tony Snyder
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I made post a few days ago about putting Stihl bars on Husky saw. It seems to have stirred up more than I expected.
The only reason I brought it up was because I had a customer that bought a Jonsered 2095 and had several new Stihl bars on hand that he wanted to use up. That is it, all there was to it. I did not intend to imply that there was any advantage in putting a Stihl bar on an Electrolux saw.
I made post a few days ago about putting Stihl bars on Husky saw. It seems to have stirred up more than I expected.
The only reason I brought it up was because I had a customer that bought a Jonsered 2095 and had several new Stihl bars on hand that he wanted to use up. That is it, all there was to it. I did not intend to imply that there was any advantage in putting a Stihl bar on an Electrolux saw.
Willie3x
ArboristSite Lurker
Northen NJ 115-145/cord.
Confused, do you want to sell that pro mac 610? I'm rebuilting one and am looking for a parts saw(I know I know, why bother, right? Just can't help myself).
Confused, do you want to sell that pro mac 610? I'm rebuilting one and am looking for a parts saw(I know I know, why bother, right? Just can't help myself).
confused
ArboristSite Operative
Willie,
I can’t sell that Mac. It’s my dad's for one and for myself it will eventually hold sentimental value when my dad someday passes. So that one will be in my family as long as I live whether or not if it’s running. Besides the d@#n thing is bulletproof cant kill it. Run the thing hard and put it away wet, dirty, and full of fuel, a year later pull the cord 3 time and she fires right up. So you see I cant sell "ole Dependable".
I can’t sell that Mac. It’s my dad's for one and for myself it will eventually hold sentimental value when my dad someday passes. So that one will be in my family as long as I live whether or not if it’s running. Besides the d@#n thing is bulletproof cant kill it. Run the thing hard and put it away wet, dirty, and full of fuel, a year later pull the cord 3 time and she fires right up. So you see I cant sell "ole Dependable".
Willie3x
ArboristSite Lurker
confused,
sounds like you have a few hours on that 610. what bar and chain do you like on your setup? the arbordirect site's got the windsor speed tips on sale. and they carry windsor and sabre chains. what do you think of them?
sounds like you have a few hours on that 610. what bar and chain do you like on your setup? the arbordirect site's got the windsor speed tips on sale. and they carry windsor and sabre chains. what do you think of them?
