Stihl BioPlus bar oil: anyone use it?
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I have to admit that I don't think regular bar oil has a significant effect on the environment, and don't worry too much about it, and use regular Stihl bar oil. But if you're putting your chips in with your flowers and compost, I think the BioPlus would be a good idea. And while I don't think regular oil would probably hurt that much, if at all, why not use the BioPlus, other than it costs more-doesn't it? I don't know, I've never bought it. 
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Jeff
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Jeff
rustyb said:
Never thought of that, we do make our compost however with just about everything else.
I wonder how long it would take to compost saw chips only ?
Could you compost saw chips only or do they need to be mixed in ?
Blowdown1
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chips only would be "browns" and you need some "greens", primarily for the nitrogen which will help to break things down and create good compost. I spose if you gave it long enough it would compost itself, but that could take a long time.
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rustyb said:
I really dont think that there would be enough bar oil on the chips that it will hurt anything. If you were worried about it, a cheap way to alleviate the problem would be to use vegtable oil in your carving saw. It will keep the bar lubricated and not contaminate the chips with petrol.
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Paul,
As for the vegi oil, there was a discussion about that on the Carvers Forum. Seems as though it was very problematic. Don't recall exactly why but....
And Lobo,
Blowdown is correct. With enough green matter in the mix, small wood chips like that will break down....and fairly quickly if you turn the pile often enough. Honestly though, I haven't actully put chain saw chips directily in the compost pile....just flower beds (have put lots of shredded wood in though). I believe there is enough oil in the chips to affect things. Probably shouldn't even put them in the flower beds but I do anyway,....hesitantly.
Paul,
As for the vegi oil, there was a discussion about that on the Carvers Forum. Seems as though it was very problematic. Don't recall exactly why but....
And Lobo,
Blowdown is correct. With enough green matter in the mix, small wood chips like that will break down....and fairly quickly if you turn the pile often enough. Honestly though, I haven't actully put chain saw chips directily in the compost pile....just flower beds (have put lots of shredded wood in though). I believe there is enough oil in the chips to affect things. Probably shouldn't even put them in the flower beds but I do anyway,....hesitantly.
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If the veg. oil was "problematic" then i suspect that it was not viscous enough (too thin) to stick to the bar properly. If that is truely the case, perhaps some molasses or syrup maybe even Karo could be mixed with veg oil or used straight to achieve a higher viscosity. I've never used it myself but would and might try it just to see how well it works.
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Alot of guys carve moose and elk after a kill with chainsaws, and they use vegi oil for bar lube. A moose hip and a maple are different things though. Just thought I'd mention it. I don't think it'd be problematic in flesh, but I'm not sure I'd turn to it right away for use in wood. Personally, I bone out my kills with a knife. I might take my 460 on my next hunt.... 
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Jeff
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Paul,
My mistake. I searched the Carvers Forum and I had vegetable oils confused with linseed & tung oils. Appearantly, the two latter oils gum up the oil tank & create a big mess. Sounds like vegetable &/or soy bean oil do work,.....at least for carving purposes. Also, don't know if it's fact or not but from what I just read, the Stihl BioPlus is a soy product.
Let me know if you try the vegetable oil out.
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r
My mistake. I searched the Carvers Forum and I had vegetable oils confused with linseed & tung oils. Appearantly, the two latter oils gum up the oil tank & create a big mess. Sounds like vegetable &/or soy bean oil do work,.....at least for carving purposes. Also, don't know if it's fact or not but from what I just read, the Stihl BioPlus is a soy product.
Let me know if you try the vegetable oil out.
Thanks,
r
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In southern Md on one of our logging sites, we came across these large piles of sawdust in the woods, covered with vines etc growing over them. A local farmer told us they were there from old logging operations in the 20's and 30's... and this was 1980's. So I can tell you that by itself in the wet woods for 50-60 years, they will not compost completely. We dug into the center of one of the piles, couple feet in, and the sawdust was discolored (dark) and a little wet, but otherwise looked like it had been piled there the week before.Blowdown1 said:
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I think a lot will depend on weather/moisture conditions, type of wood, other materials in there, etc.
I just used a skidsteer to clear out a large mulch pile that was left from the former owner of the house we bought three years ago. It had become overgrown with honesuckle and other weeds. Lots of really nice loam down towards the bottom. I have no idea how long it had sat there or what else was mixed in, but it was primarily wood chip mulch.
I just used a skidsteer to clear out a large mulch pile that was left from the former owner of the house we bought three years ago. It had become overgrown with honesuckle and other weeds. Lots of really nice loam down towards the bottom. I have no idea how long it had sat there or what else was mixed in, but it was primarily wood chip mulch.
