STIHL ES VS SUGIHARA LIGHTWEIGHT CHAINSAW BARS

[weedkilla]

Thanks Randy,

It's so nice to see a retailer actually put those weights out there. It puts the bars in a good perspective - the qualities of a top end solid bar at the weight of an Oregon pro lite.
For those of us who have worn out umpteen laminated bars because the weight is preferable the sugi is a cost effective solution.

 

[KG441c]

R the Tsumura heavier or lighter than a Sugihara Randy?

 

[watsonr]

I have a 20" Tsumura on my 036 Pro I can weigh tomorrow.

 

[weedkilla]

Edited - shutting my trap!

 

[KG441c]

I have a 20" Tsumura on my 036 Pro I can weigh tomorrow.

Perhaps not fair to ask Randy to comment on a competitors product.
There is a tsumura dealer that posts on as, perhaps ask him?

From what I've seen there is very little between the two, with the difference going either way in different sizes but not by much.
The biggest issue is the difference in sizes available between the two, with almost no 050 bars in tsumura, and no 058 in sugihara.

You must have missed Randys signature? He's a Tsumura\Total dealer also

 

[weedkilla]

You must have missed Randys signature? He's a Tsumura\Total dealer also

You replied as I was editing!
The old "speak first, check facts second"

 

[MCW]

Just remember that as the Sugihara Lightweights get longer their weight savings become less apparent than an equivalent ES Light etc. I imported a couple of 32" Sugi's from the US a few years back to find that they were only 5% lighter than a solid GB Pro Top or Oregon Power Match Plus - I started a thread on it which has probably gone to the great hacker in the sky. Great bars though and like Tsumuras have top notch steel. Nothing wrong with the Stihl ES bars so as mentioned earlier get the one that is cheaper.
If I'm not mistaken you'll find that the Sugihara Lightweights all have the same level of nylon inserts, regardless of length. This is why the weight savings are more noticable on the shorter bars. I have a couple of 20" Husky mount ones in the shed for when I get too old and girly to run a solid bar

Oh and despite being on the other side of the world my Sugihara's and longer Tsumuras came from Randy We can buy Tsumuras here but only 24" or less.

 

[Oz Lumberjack]

Just remember that as the Sugihara Lightweights get longer their weight savings become less apparent than an equivalent ES Light etc. I imported a couple of 32" Sugi's from the US a few years back to find that they were only 5% lighter than a solid GB Pro Top or Oregon Power Match Plus - I started a thread on it which has probably gone to the great hacker in the sky. Great bars though and like Tsumuras have top notch steel. Nothing wrong with the Stihl ES bars so as mentioned earlier get the one that is cheaper.
If I'm not mistaken you'll find that the Sugihara Lightweights all have the same level of nylon inserts, regardless of length. This is why the weight savings are more noticable on the shorter bars. I have a couple of 20" Husky mount ones in the shed for when I get too old and girly to run a solid bar

Oh and despite being on the other side of the world my Sugihara's and longer Tsumuras came from Randy We can buy Tsumuras here but only 24" or less.

Where can you get the Tsumaras from in Australia? I'm after a 24 or 28" one for my new Stihl MS462