STIHL IS REDESIGNING ALL OF THEIR BARS! NEVER SEEN NEW SAWS!

[chilipeppermaniac]

for that, I have no answer, mine are drained and charged almost every day, we run that saw 4-7 days a week

Yep, I can understand this in a case of you, a pro using these saws constantly. or like me, and battery carpentry/mechanic tools. But if I bought a battery chainsaw, weed wacker etc, they would only see occasional/seasonal use. Which is a whole other consideration for " homeowners" "Firewood" guys and gals.

I think I will stick with my gas powered saws and if I need a quiet saw for wee hours of the morning use, Maybe rent one.

 

[freeasaburt]

There's quite a lot of different chemistries for li-ion batteries, depending on their use case (power draw etc.). This affects a number of things, including the formation of dendrites, but also the amount of certain rare materials that have to be used in their production.

Generally speaking, however, as far as I know (not an expert at all), the best way to store the batteries for a longer period is at some 75% charge, at a temperature above 7°C/44°F.

Probably debatable, though

 

[Franny K]

For the Husqvarna bli150 the predecessor to the bli 200 and the bli200x 2014 and 2015 on the label there are four yellow lights and then the red triangle. When new used until blinking red triangle and put on the charger the lights would come on one by one. Now the first light comes on immediately upon meeting up with the charger and the second one within a few minutes. They still seem to do the same thing in the pole saw and string trimmer, not so sure about the blower and 536 top handle. The batteries come with one light out of four so that likely is the preferred storage state. I suppose you really should use a voltmeter to see what the various indicator lights means and how that translates to the cell voltage and then decide if you want to second guess the battery monitoring system in the battery.

 

[Sidecarflip]

Yep, I can understand this in a case of you, a pro using these saws constantly. or like me, and battery carpentry/mechanic tools. But if I bought a battery chainsaw, weed wacker etc, they would only see occasional/seasonal use. Which is a whole other consideration for " homeowners" "Firewood" guys and gals.

I think I will stick with my gas powered saws and if I need a quiet saw for wee hours of the morning use, Maybe rent one.

No battery powered saws here and never will be. When I see one, or an EV or any electrical powered item that uses Li-Ion batteries, I just think about all the slave labor that is used to mine the raw materials. That does it for me. Same with solar panels.

 

[ZinTrees]

No battery powered saws here and never will be. When I see one, or an EV or any electrical powered item that uses Li-Ion batteries, I just think about all the slave labor that is used to mine the raw materials. That does it for me. Same with solar panels.

me trying to figure who asked

 

[freeasaburt]

For the Husqvarna bli150 the predecessor to the bli 200 and the bli200x 2014 and 2015 on the label there are four yellow lights and then the red triangle. When new used until blinking red triangle and put on the charger the lights would come on one by one. Now the first light comes on immediately upon meeting up with the charger and the second one within a few minutes. They still seem to do the same thing in the pole saw and string trimmer, not so sure about the blower and 536 top handle. The batteries come with one light out of four so that likely is the preferred storage state. I suppose you really should use a voltmeter to see what the various indicator lights means and how that translates to the cell voltage and then decide if you want to second guess the battery monitoring system in the battery.

The BMS is a huge factor indeed. Cheapo battery tools often have ****** ones, which makes the batteries degrade faster.
I have used my li-ion powered makita drill for more than ten years, 'home owner' style application but still, a lot of charge cycles through the years. Professionals have more specialised tools and the bigger batteries, and the difference is pretty huge, but anyway - my batteries still perform as if new (although their charge capacity obviously has degraded over time, it's not a real nuisance as of yet).

 

[Seachaser]

The Stihl light bars were right up there with Sugihara, Husqvarna, and Tsumara.
Now they’re the ugliest of the four.

 

[dboyd351]

me trying to figure who asked

maybe a chainsaw ****** wanted to know

 

[OM617YOTA]

Sounds like a fair assessment from a guy who knows the right tool for the job.

I can definitely see pro's and cons of each type tool. Some will weigh the cost of battery vs gas, some have 0 choice like they are saying about Kommiefornia. Some will be better off with battery like homeowners, but there again, do the batteries lose life span if not used and recharged regularly?

There's quite a lot of different chemistries for li-ion batteries, depending on their use case (power draw etc.). This affects a number of things, including the formation of dendrites, but also the amount of certain rare materials that have to be used in their production.

Generally speaking, however, as far as I know (not an expert at all), the best way to store the batteries for a longer period is at some 75% charge, at a temperature above 7°C/44°F.

Probably debatable, though

Best to store between 25 and 75% state of charge and between 32-75F. Less than half the cycle life when stored full and at high temp.

 

[Mildride]

They are going the battery route to be WOKE. If they are planting EV charging stations in their parking lot , that proves they are trying to please a certain crowd, especially if they talk about it. They can try to please the EV fans, but it is a very small percent of their loyal customers. It wont be long they will be trying to push the bigger saws into battery saws. It makes me so mad that they can sell a battery for hundreds of dollars and call it green.. They are making a mistake. It is fien to have a few models , maybe up to 2 horsepower , but that is it. My mom wanted a chainsaw . i told her , NO WAY . We agreed on a Dewalt 20 v. mini sawzall . She is 85 though..

FIL is 83. MS310 & similar sized Husky. Said my MS170 was cute, but not enough saw. Told him it was just my trimming saw lol

 

[chilipeppermaniac]

FIL is 83. MS310 & similar sized Husky. Said my MS170 was cute, but not enough saw. Told him it was just my trimming saw lol

I hit 60 in January and buried my mom @ 84 in Nov 2022. Just lost Dad in April @ 87. I keep saying that after virtually 0 work for the past 3 + years while looking after them, I will need to work till I am 80. If I live that long, it will be a good feat. My low back and hip pains keep me barely able to walk, kneel or get back up. I hope I can still run saws in 20 years,

 

[brian.b]

Looks like you left your saw parked on the street in a sketchy neighborhood and gangs tagged it lol

 

[mattclark074]

The new font looks like the 'Live, Laugh, Love' signs my mom had in 2012. They look bad now, but will look even worse in the future when they are wimpy AND dated

 

[Bronco]

WTH is Stihl's marketing company? Man Stihl got ripped off. This looks like some limp wrist 'graphic designer' and Spiderman after some rec drugs starting airbrushing designs on a bar. Why mess up a good thing? Esp since 90% + of chainsaw users are real guys that piss standing up. Wait for the steady decline in bar sales from Stihl and massive increase in bar sales on Japan made bars.

 

[user 183106]

You are right, it appears stihl is steering more and more away from the pro logging buyer market towards urban / fancy / treecare / part time logger / homeowner market since this is getting bigger.

In pro logging handcutting is still common here in Germany but more and more wood goes away from the Handcutters to the Harvesters.
But still 261/362/400/462 and 500i are very common here in Germany.

The 50cc market is ruled with an iron fist by the 550mark2 since the last few years, at least for the professional cutters.
Among Farmers and Homeowners 261 is more popular, but 50cc pro 550mark2 is king here.

On the Bigger saws, 70cc and up you tend to see more Stihl than Husky, mostly because the weight advantage, even more because 70cc is almost always ran with 20" oder 18", not longer even in Softwood as Spruce.
And of course because of the fancy 500i which splits the logging crowd in half, some love it, some rather take a 462 because in real world you just get the same work done with better fuel economy, better filtration and a little less weight, not even mentioning the better price.
500i is more of a demonstration of new tech.

But i am getting away from the topic.
The only advantage i see is, that for the laminated bars it is more easy to see weather you have a little 4 rivet nose or a more rugged 6 rivet nose. Even dealerships had problems as few even knew there were different nose types of "Rollomatic E".
As for the design it is just silly, but not that big of a deal.

And for Stihl getting "woke"...thats just the overall trend you see in Europe, where Germany marks the sad leader in stupidness.
Maybe things were too good for too long of a time so it encourages people to question the most normal things.
It is getting absurd to the point you get flamed by "woke green" people for eating meat in germany, because that is bad for the environment.
Hence, it is even considered rude to the environment to have children because more people polluting the planet. Darwin at his best, because the most stupid will die out. But sorry, getting a bit to far here.

Greetings

 

[freeasaburt]

Look at what's happening to the German (or European, in general) car industry... Says enough.
I'm not principally against electrification but there's a lot of dreaming/wishful thinking, and way less realism.

 

[ClimberBusinessman]

This is quite ugly. Preferred the old type.

 

[ClimberBusinessman]

Look at what's happening to the German (or European, in general) car industry... Says enough.
I'm not principally against electrification but there's a lot of dreaming/wishful thinking, and way less realism.

I am principally against electrification.