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Germany is going into an electricity crisis that will Cripple their already crippled industry….don’t expect to see much, if anything, from Germany in the next 2.5 years…if you want it, don’t hesitate
Stihl pro Saw shortages
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Phecda
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Perhaps you guys can make an informal list of what you see here so that the rest of us throughout the country that can’t get saws can have you get them….as Germany collapses from the socialists, the list may come in handy….
It’s a basement list more then likely.
Nice saw though!
I will aim to take pictures next time in the store. Smith farm store in Knox, IN was loaded with Stihls about a week ago. 3/4 were probably mid range and consumer models but I saw many pro models also. Not sure what they didn't have. Couple other store locations they have also. U can Google and call and see if they have what u want.
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Phecda
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Am I going to regret an mtronic661 over a regular 661?
90% of the time my M-tronic have been flawless....10% of the time not so much. 100% of the time they just need to cool off. Dunno.
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If possible, I’d find yourself the standard carb 661 and have control over tuning your saw. Additionally, if you ever decide to use it for some milling or extrema conditions, you’ll be damn glad you can run the saw on the rich side. If you’re buying a 90 CC saw, in all likelihood, you’re not a novice who can’t tune their own carb anyway, so why mess with the M-Tronic on a large saw?
BTW, my non M-Tronic 661 has performed flawlessly here on the Northern Cali coast, where many trees are large enough to actually need a saw this size.
BTW, my non M-Tronic 661 has performed flawlessly here on the Northern Cali coast, where many trees are large enough to actually need a saw this size.
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Sierra_rider
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My speculation with M-tronic saws and heat, is it's related to the exhaust. All of my saws get muffler modded and none of my M-tronics have had issues with restarting or heat. My experiences with M-tronics are with a 201tcm, ms400, and ms462r...no issues and that's often in some pretty extreme temperatures. I always give out before the saw does lol.
My only e-carb saw that is kinda glitchy with starts is my early gen-1 550xp Husky...that's not a knock against the technology, but rather Huskies poor early execution of it...
My only e-carb saw that is kinda glitchy with starts is my early gen-1 550xp Husky...that's not a knock against the technology, but rather Huskies poor early execution of it...
ihookem
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The shelves are a little empty in Wisconsin in some stores but I could get what I wanted if I had to. This is why I bought 2 new saws about 4 months ago. I knew this was going to happen. I saw a Stihl 261 at the hardware store in central Wis. yesterday . It was $679 . I knew they were going to go up and I always saw them for $629 , so they went up about 8%? I didnt go with Stihl this time though. I went with and ECHO 620P and a slightly used 501P that had just a few tanks of gas through it . The guy bought the 501 and traded in his Husky 550xp, but decided he liked hi 550Xp so he took back the Echo. They are both nice saws and dont even need them, but when ya cant even find parts , we are in trouble.
Phecda
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shop says they can order me a non-mtronic 661, expect 60+ day backorder minimum
Bearcat22lr
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Didn't read through the thread, maybe been hit already...
I heard some wiring comes out of ukraine
I heard some wiring comes out of ukraine
Your paranoia is unfounded. The latest generation of mtronic has been a solid performer. Don't have many tanks through the ms400cm yet, but it's been run in 90*+ heat for those tanks, purposefully shut down to allow to heat soak then fired right back up, usually with one pull. Actually it's the easiest starting mtronic/auto tune saw I've ever used. 3 pulls and it fires off after sitting for days. No primer bulb just a standard choke lever like we used to have.
The guy blowing his lips off about how bad mtronic is I highly doubt has much if any wheel time milling or cutting with them.
We have a trail organization that provides some chainsaws for volunteers to use to clear trees from the trails. We have one M-Tronic saw, MS362c-m. The biggest problem is operator error as they don't understand how they work. Also most are a destroyer of equipment.
They start the saw and cut right away not letting the saw run through the protocol to get the saw proper fueling etc. So it dies right away and they flood it and swear about the saw.
Or they manage to get it going and make long hard cuts, usually pushing the bar some with dull chains, and finish and immediately shut the saw off. Well now whatever fuel was in the cylinder or carb is long since vaporized.
Now they wonder why the saw will not start and if it does the computer is going wonkey and running bad. They even allow the saw to run out of fuel and then its disaster for them getting fuel to flow back to the cylinder as all the remaining fuel vaporized.
I tell them to warm it up and let it run to cool down allowing cool fuel into the cylinder and air from the flywheel flow over the cylinder fins.
The MS 362c-m works fine as long as you allow time at start up and shut down. Their opinions regarding the saw is not favorable.
M-Tronic saws if you do a lot of light load cuts like limbing, the computer gets confused as there is no load for the computer to make adjustments. It might go lean and even shut it's self off. Putting a load on it in the log will get the computer back to normal.
Just some observations.
They start the saw and cut right away not letting the saw run through the protocol to get the saw proper fueling etc. So it dies right away and they flood it and swear about the saw.
Or they manage to get it going and make long hard cuts, usually pushing the bar some with dull chains, and finish and immediately shut the saw off. Well now whatever fuel was in the cylinder or carb is long since vaporized.
Now they wonder why the saw will not start and if it does the computer is going wonkey and running bad. They even allow the saw to run out of fuel and then its disaster for them getting fuel to flow back to the cylinder as all the remaining fuel vaporized.
I tell them to warm it up and let it run to cool down allowing cool fuel into the cylinder and air from the flywheel flow over the cylinder fins.
The MS 362c-m works fine as long as you allow time at start up and shut down. Their opinions regarding the saw is not favorable.
M-Tronic saws if you do a lot of light load cuts like limbing, the computer gets confused as there is no load for the computer to make adjustments. It might go lean and even shut it's self off. Putting a load on it in the log will get the computer back to normal.
Just some observations.
