Storing campfire wood bundles

[Guswhit]

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I use the produce bags - about $.33 each. holds about 1 cu. ft.

Somebody here on AS tipped me off to this seller.
https://www.harrisseeds.com/product...ons-corn-potatoes-18-x-32?variant=28921293073

I used these 1 year. The problem I faced is, customers thought the bag should be packed solid full, but didn't want to pay anymore than a regular sized bundle. I think I was paying $.32/bag from a supplier out of Wisconsin. I can look it up if anyone wants the info. The bags were also stamped onions on them and I didn't like that either.

 

[Brad Burnette]

Fellers I found this company yesterday nnzusa.com. They are in GA. I’m gonna be getting 20” x 30” red mesh bags with no writing on them for .18 cents each. You have to buy 100 at a time so I’m gonna order 500. Shipped to my door will be $115.00 give or take a couple bucks. The lady told me that’s the bag they sell to all their firewood guys. They also sell the bigger woven bags for large quantities you just have to be able to move them. Thinking about some sort of hand truck with a lift??

 

[Brad Burnette]

Let’s see your jigs for bagging I’m gonna build something like this.

 

[mijdirtyjeep]

Fellers I found this company yesterday nnzusa.com. They are in GA. I’m gonna be getting 20” x 30” red mesh bags with no writing on them for .18 cents each. You have to buy 100 at a time so I’m gonna order 500. Shipped to my door will be $115.00 give or take a couple bucks. The lady told me that’s the bag they sell to all their firewood guys.

Post up a pic when you get them and let us know how they work out for you. I am always in search of an easier/dumb'd down way to package firewood as mine is mostly done by high schoolers. They sure can't make a square bundle to save their life.

With wrap, I can get roughly 150/bundles a roll. There is 4 rolls in a box and I pay about $40 box or about .06 cents a bundle for wrap. But being highschoolers, I know for certain they are putting more than 4-5 wraps on each one, unless I am standing next to them holding their hand

 

[Brad Burnette]

Post up a pic when you get them and let us know how they work out for you. I am always in search of an easier/dumb'd down way to package firewood as mine is mostly done by high schoolers. They sure can't make a square bundle to save their life.

With wrap, I can get roughly 150/bundles a roll. There is 4 rolls in a box and I pay about $40 box or about .06 cents a bundle for wrap. But being highschoolers, I know for certain they are putting more than 4-5 wraps on each one, unless I am standing next to them holding their hand

Will do...I’m hoping to have my splitter built this weekend and get me a load ran. I’ve only got March left down here in Fl. I may get some stragglers wanting burn pit wood and green wood throughout the summer. I plan on bagging all summer though and covering it so it will be ready come next fall.

 

[ChoppyChoppy]

SB 147 do you ever have nice in your bags?? I’ve been using shrink wrap off amazon buy in bulk comes out to less then $5

The stuff I found on Amazon was $48 a case, went up to $60 recently though.
I've found it cheaper, but being it's a 25lb box the shipping is $$$.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B009PS6YLM/ref=ya_aw_oh_bia_dp?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

[ChoppyChoppy]

Post up a pic when you get them and let us know how they work out for you. I am always in search of an easier/dumb'd down way to package firewood as mine is mostly done by high schoolers. They sure can't make a square bundle to save their life.

With wrap, I can get roughly 150/bundles a roll. There is 4 rolls in a box and I pay about $40 box or about .06 cents a bundle for wrap. But being highschoolers, I know for certain they are putting more than 4-5 wraps on each one, unless I am standing next to them holding their hand

I did the last bundles (vs hiring it out), 4 wraps each and 150 bundles per roll is about what I got.

It's fairly quick to wrap, I can do about 40 bundles an hour.
Sold about 2300 bundles last year. (23 cords worth).

They sell pretty decent. The gas stations have wood but it's a joke. $5-7 for a small "bundle" of kindling sized sized splits. Probably 175 bundles to a cord.

 

[mijdirtyjeep]

The stuff I found on Amazon was $48 a case, went up to $60 recently though.
I've found it cheaper, but being it's a 25lb box the shipping is $$$.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B009PS6YLM/ref=ya_aw_oh_bia_dp?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Yeah, I just searched amazon as well. i pick it up local from a company here. They raised the prices on it though, as i was getting it for around $32 a case.

They did say if I ordered a skid they would deliver to the woodyard for free and the price would be back to what i was paying. I think it would go bad before I ever used a full pallet of it though.

Too bad shipping is a PITA or we could just do a group buy!!

 

[mijdirtyjeep]

I’ve only got March left down here in Fl. I may get some stragglers wanting burn pit wood and green wood throughout the summer. I plan on bagging all summer though and covering it so it will be ready come next fall.

try to pick up a couple campgrounds as they will burn it all summer!

Most of my campgrounds "smaller non-state park campgrounds" go through about 150-200 bundles a week from May-October. Then it just stops as they close for winter. The few stores I have will sell all winter long, just not a ton of them though.

 

[sb47]

I just picked up a new bundle today.

 

[Brad Burnette]

try to pick up a couple campgrounds as they will burn it all summer!

Most of my campgrounds "smaller non-state park campgrounds" go through about 150-200 bundles a week from May-October. Then it just stops as they close for winter. The few stores I have will sell all winter long, just not a ton of them though.

How much are you getting a bundle. Hardware stores, grocery stores, etc are getting 5-7 for a bag. I’m gonna start a $4.00 for retail and $3.00 for 100 or more to the stores. I’ve got a couple of nurseries and few trailer parks I’m gonna hit up to. I also have a prime roadside spot to sell out of a trailer..gonna play with it and see what’s gonna work the best.

 

[mijdirtyjeep]

I am at $3.25/bundle for most of my places. I do have a campground I charge $4/bundle to, it is a 50mile one way drive to his place. Also he has to order a 400/bundle load for me to make the trip. I have had him for 3 years and he has never complained and most summers he orders 4-400/bundle loads. I’m sure he marks them up to $6/bundle.

 

[ChoppyChoppy]

I sell them $5 ea, 5 for $20.
I was doing $3ea for campgrounds if they bought 100, but I'm doing $3.50ea this year.

I get about 100 bundles to a cord of wood.

At $3 I may as well just deal with bulk firewood with the added costs of making bundles. A cord of wood that I'd make bundles with I'd sell loose for $225. I have about $75 of added costs (labor, wrap and labels), so that's $3 each "break even".
Sure I have a profit with the loose wood, but for the trouble of doing bundles I can't break even!

I had one campground that was pull apart the bundles and split them in half. I found out when I had a few people ask why the bundles I was selling here at the shop where so much bigger.
Yeah.. the campground owner was re-wrapping and putting my label on them!

He was buying 100 1 cu/ft bundles for $300, turning them into 200 .5 cu/ft bundles, but marking them at 1 cu/ft. And selling them for $7 each.

After I found out I told them I could bring them loose wood, but I'm not doing bundles for them.

You guys that are paying $0.30+ a bag, that just seems expensive. The stretch wrap is minimal waste too. Either can be burned or wadded up in a golf ball sized ball and tossed.

I can do about 150 bundles on a roll of wrap which now costs me $15.25, so about $0.10 a bundle in wrap.

Was really just last year that I really pushed to do bundles so I guessed on my costs. I was pretty close, least I didn't lose $$.

 

[woodshax]

We do both bags and the traditional .75 bundles. Our bags are a bit bigger 32 x 21 and I get them 10,000 at a time from Vietnam for 22 cents a piece. They are a tighter weave than the smaller ones from China and last 3 times as long in the sun before they breakdown. The bags fit 1.4 to 1.5 cu ft at 18' and we sell about 5 to 1 bags Vs Bundles at 15 State parks in the DFW area. Making larger bundles is a bit cumbersome for campers to carry and they like the bags better. We have all our local firewood suppliers toss the splits into these bags (get them for $5 a piece used) and they last a long time. The big bags hold right at .25 Cords (true cords). We are constantly checking the bag yields to get the average and then pay accordingly. We sell the bundles for between $5.99 and $6.75 plus tax and the bags from $10.99 to $11.99 plus tax (the closer to a city the park is the more campers will pay). From the 15 Parks (kept adding parks as the year went on) we grossed right at $175,000. Selling retail by the stick in state parks gets us at about $1200 a cord and the campers and park staff are happy.

 

[unclemoustache]

Fellers I found this company yesterday nnzusa.com. They are in GA. I’m gonna be getting 20” x 30” red mesh bags with no writing on them for .18 cents each. You have to buy 100 at a time so I’m gonna order 500. Shipped to my door will be $115.00 give or take a couple bucks. The lady told me that’s the bag they sell to all their firewood guys. They also sell the bigger woven bags for large quantities you just have to be able to move them. Thinking about some sort of hand truck with a lift??

Is there an online order form, or do you have to call?

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[ChoppyChoppy]

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We do both bags and the traditional .75 bundles. Our bags are a bit bigger 32 x 21 and I get them 10,000 at a time from Vietnam for 22 cents a piece. They are a tighter weave than the smaller ones from China and last 3 times as long in the sun before they breakdown. The bags fit 1.4 to 1.5 cu ft at 18' and we sell about 5 to 1 bags Vs Bundles at 15 State parks in the DFW area. Making larger bundles is a bit cumbersome for campers to carry and they like the bags better. We have all our local firewood suppliers toss the splits into these bags (get them for $5 a piece used) and they last a long time. The big bags hold right at .25 Cords (true cords). We are constantly checking the bag yields to get the average and then pay accordingly. We sell the bundles for between $5.99 and $6.75 plus tax and the bags from $10.99 to $11.99 plus tax (the closer to a city the park is the more campers will pay). From the 15 Parks (kept adding parks as the year went on) we grossed right at $175,000. Selling retail by the stick in state parks gets us at about $1200 a cord and the campers and park staff are happy.

How do you get out of the skid steer?

I used to use mine for filling bulk bags till I had to leave it overnight once. It lowered several inches and I couldn't open the door. Was all the way down the next morning.

I use a forklift now, much safer.

I get 1/3 cord out of the bulk bags I use, though I fill them to the top. We get the regular ones for free, but I use vented ones for wood. The regular ones would be a mold factory!

I just loop the bag handles on the f/l tines, stick under the conveyor and process wood into it.

 

[woodshax]

He slides out the front

We only use the skidder to load and unload the trailers and dump on the table and the wood does not stay in the bags long enough to get moldy...but we do have the vented ones as well

 

[Brad Burnette]

Is there an online order form, or do you have to call?

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I just called and talked to em'. A lady named Maria is who I talked to. She was very friendly and helpful.

 

[T. Mainus]

Not sure if you can see them or not but we had a pair of slip on forks made that have hooks welded to the bottom of them for moving the bags around. That way you can just hook each strap in to the hook as opposed to having to thread the fork through both loops. They just have a pair of chains that wrap around the forks to hold them on.

 

[Brad Burnette]

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We do both bags and the traditional .75 bundles. Our bags are a bit bigger 32 x 21 and I get them 10,000 at a time from Vietnam for 22 cents a piece. They are a tighter weave than the smaller ones from China and last 3 times as long in the sun before they breakdown. The bags fit 1.4 to 1.5 cu ft at 18' and we sell about 5 to 1 bags Vs Bundles at 15 State parks in the DFW area. Making larger bundles is a bit cumbersome for campers to carry and they like the bags better. We have all our local firewood suppliers toss the splits into these bags (get them for $5 a piece used) and they last a long time. The big bags hold right at .25 Cords (true cords). We are constantly checking the bag yields to get the average and then pay accordingly. We sell the bundles for between $5.99 and $6.75 plus tax and the bags from $10.99 to $11.99 plus tax (the closer to a city the park is the more campers will pay). From the 15 Parks (kept adding parks as the year went on) we grossed right at $175,000. Selling retail by the stick in state parks gets us at about $1200 a cord and the campers and park staff are happy.

Hey man could you take a few close ups of that barrel bagger. That is pretty slick. What size drum is that? How long do you cut your wood? I’m probably gonna copy that thing...I like it!