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[chainsawjunky]

I was trying to split the case on my 044 and I'm about to strip a screw. It's the one to the left of the oiler and behind the clutch. It's torques screw(i think they're called that) and it's soaking in penetrating oil but it's starting to slip. It's not completely stripped yet. I've been told I should try a hex and if that doesn't work to bore it out then retap it. But I was wondering if anybody had any other ideas or tricks on how to get it out or what to do if I strip it. Thanks. Evan

 

[dustytools]

Are you talking about the inside of the fastener head starting to round out? If so try some JB weld on the torx driver and the screw (gluing them together) and let sit for a few hrs, then try to turn it out. Of course you may have some trouble separating them when and if you get the screw out. Just a thought. Good luck.

 

[cuttinscott]

Its very rare to strip out a TORX T27 head fastener. did you use the right size wrench? was the hole free of dirt and debris?? if it does seem to be unwrenchable can you get a small chisel at it tap the head of the fastener in a loosening manner and it should break free..

Scott

 

[chainsawjunky]

I might try the JB Weld idea. Where would I get that, just any old hardware store? To cuttinscott, it's sunk in to the case probably 1/2 inch so it would be extremely hard(if not impossible) to get a chisel in there. Evan

 

[adkranger]

Like Scott said, are you sure all the crud is out of the torx hole? I've tried on one's I thought were clear but had to dig around with a small pick to clear it and get a better bite. If it gets to the point where it's stripped out I'd try an EZ-out before drilling out the entire screw. I've used 'em to great success in the past with stripped out bolt heads, broken spark plug threads and such. Of course depending on the depth of torx hole you may need to "enhance" the hole a bit to get a good bite with the EZ-out bit. Good luck.

 

[Patrick62]

The way I see it

The torx screw is down it a hole so banging on the edge is out of the question.
Drilling it out is possible, but time consuming. I would agree with the notion that they are hard to strip out, the hole maybe partially plugged with dirt.
Use a quality WiHa wrench. Penetrating oil ain't gonna hurt anything.
Heat can make things expand a bit, breaking corosion loose.

If you end up drilling it, drill the entire head off. Don't even think about using a easy-out. If it breaks off you are :censored: . The remains will come out fairly easy with a vice grip.

Hope this helps.

-pat

 

[cuttinscott]

Ok one final hint.. If you are still able to get some bite on the fastener get a TORX socket bit and a impact tool this will jar it loose if you can get enough bite. Make sure the bolt is free of debris first.

Scott

 

[Lakeside53]

Just dig out the crud. Unless some fool has used red loctite, the screw can almost never get so tight in a mag case that the head will strip. Insert the torx tool and smack it firmly with a hammer, then undo. JB weld would be your very last resort, if at all.

 

[chainsawjunky]

Thanks to everyone, I'll try it tomorrow and let you know how it goes. Evan

 

[chowdozer]

Hold the saw upside down and shoot a little brake cleaner in there to clean out that torx head.

 

[Bill G]

You have gotten a ton of advice so I assume you will get it out. As for penetrating oil the best out there is Kroil. The 5 star is good and so is PB but Kroil will beat them. It was mentioned that it is hard to strip a T27 and that is completely true. Normally as noted most problems are due to a weak bite due to crud. I highly doubt a socket will fit as I believe you are talking about a coutersunk screw. No socket will go in there. As for the JB weld well I wish you luck. I have used it and found it to be very weak. You will not get a stronger connection than you had originally. Tapping it will help but I would go with cleaning the head and putting some Kroil on it.

Bill

 

[Dubai Vol]

Here's the tool you want, after you've made sure the head of the bolt is clean, and let it soak all night:

http://www.monstronix.com/kdt1140-p-51430.html

Old motorcycle mechanics know about this one: hit it with a hammer and it turns. Invaluable for just the situation you're in. You should be able to find one locally; the one I show was just from a quick Google search, no endorsement of that particular brand.

Best of luck with it

 

[Al Smith]

That contraption is a hand impact and believe it or not,the larger ones will break things loose where a pneumatic impact wrench will not.

 

[zzrjohn]

If the TorqueX driver spline is deformed in any way go and buy a new socket, cheap drivers cause more round-outs than anything. imho.

 

[24d]

Here's the tool you want, after you've made sure the head of the bolt is clean, and let it soak all night:

http://www.monstronix.com/kdt1140-p-51430.html

Old motorcycle mechanics know about this one: hit it with a hammer and it turns. Invaluable for just the situation you're in. You should be able to find one locally; the one I show was just from a quick Google search, no endorsement of that particular brand.

Best of luck with it

clean it up put that on it-Iv used one many times and its a dream come true-a screw just cant handle it

 

[blis]

Here's the tool you want, after you've made sure the head of the bolt is clean, and let it soak all night:

http://www.monstronix.com/kdt1140-p-51430.html

Old motorcycle mechanics know about this one: hit it with a hammer and it turns. Invaluable for just the situation you're in. You should be able to find one locally; the one I show was just from a quick Google search, no endorsement of that particular brand.

Best of luck with it

+1 That tool is must have...

 

[chainsawjunky]

Here's the tool you want, after you've made sure the head of the bolt is clean, and let it soak all night:

http://www.monstronix.com/kdt1140-p-51430.html

Old motorcycle mechanics know about this one: hit it with a hammer and it turns. Invaluable for just the situation you're in. You should be able to find one locally; the one I show was just from a quick Google search, no endorsement of that particular brand.

Best of luck with it

So I recently got two of those in my dad's old tool chest. I have no idea how to use them. Do you just hit it with a hammer and it turns on its own or do I have to do something else? Thanks. Evan

 

[chainsawjunky]

O and I guess I forgot to post but I did get it out awhile ago, I was just wondering how the tool above works. Evan

 

[1953greg]

its automatic. just pound on the head as hard as necessary. somethings gonna give. head or threads.

 

[chainsawjunky]

So you hit it with hammer and it turns. I'm assuming it only goes in reverse to get the bolt out, right? Thanks. Evan