Taco 009 replacement

[finalwinchester]

Morning gents,

I need a new cartridge for my pump or even a spare pump would be good. However I noticed that prices seem to be all over the place on these pumps, anywhere from $200-$700. You guys know of anywhere to get decent prices on these pumps? I see the 007's are quite a bit cheaper but mine seems to have a hard enough time as it Is so I don't really want to downgrade. Maybe a pump that would be comparable in a different brand? It seems like the cartridges for the 009 are almost as much as a whole new pump. Thoughts?

 

[olympyk_999]

Morning gents,

I need a new cartridge for my pump or even a spare pump would be good. However I noticed that prices seem to be all over the place on these pumps, anywhere from $200-$700. You guys know of anywhere to get decent prices on these pumps? I see the 007's are quite a bit cheaper but mine seems to have a hard enough time as it Is so I don't really want to downgrade. Maybe a pump that would be comparable in a different brand? It seems like the cartridges for the 009 are almost as much as a whole new pump. Thoughts?

I just bought a bunch of 009 cartridges for work, they were around $100 each from FW Webb...a Taco is about the best you can get... I wouldn't be looking at a different brand, yours maybe having a hard time because the impeller may be falling apart, which the new cartridge would fix...

 

[finalwinchester]

Yeah I think the impeller is going, I just ordered a cartridge for it. I really should have a spare pump though. Just wondering where the best place to get them was.

 

[olympyk_999]

Yeah I think the impeller is going, I just ordered a cartridge for it. I really should have a spare pump though. Just wondering where the best place to get them was.

why would you need a spare pump...the rest is just the housing/windings...just keep an extra cartridge on hand.
the 009's at my work run 24/7, I don't even remember when or if i have ever replaced the entire pump...just 2 minutes and change the cartridge.

 

[mohick]

If you insist on using taco pump you better keep a lot of spares. Throw away junk at it's best!!!!

 

[finalwinchester]

why would you need a spare pump...the rest is just the housing/windings...just keep an extra cartridge on hand.
the 009's at my work run 24/7, I don't even remember when or if i have ever replaced the entire pump...just 2 minutes and change the cartridge.

The idea being that if I had a spare, I could easily swap pump out then wait for cartridge in the mail, and swap the cartridge on the old pump which now becomes the spare.

 

[Iska3]

I have the Taco 009 and the 007 pumps so I am going through the same thing. For now I'll buy the cartridge for the 007 and pick up the extra pump to replace the 009. The older style 009 was replaced with the newer style so I was going to check with my dealer and see if he would still have one of the older styles. Not sure what the changes are but I have had the 009 on my baseboard heat for 15 years now so I put the same type on my OWB. I guess the 009 has a higher head pressure than the 007, I'm only 125 feet from the house so the 007 would work but I liked the idea of the extra head pressure. I guess if I can buy and extra belt for a new ATV and have that collect dust, an extra pump for the OWB to heat the house would be a good idea after reading what Ben went through.

 

[blackdogon57]

A new 009 pump should be around 180-200. New cartridge around 120. Here is one place :

http://www.supplyhouse.com/Taco-Pump-Replacement-Cartridges-Gaskets-442000

I have two on my 6048. One has been running non stop for 8 years. The other needed a cartridge replacement a few years ago, mainly because I messed up and closed a valve and fried it.

 

[olympyk_999]

A new 009 pump should be around 180-200. New cartridge around 120. Here is one place :

http://www.supplyhouse.com/Taco-Pump-Replacement-Cartridges-Gaskets-442000

I have two on my 6048. One has been running non stop for 8 years. The other needed a cartridge replacement a few years ago, mainly because I messed up and closed a valve and fried it.

yup...I don't see wanting to swap the pump when swapping the cartridge as much faster, and cheaper?

 

[finalwinchester]

yup...I don't see wanting to swap the pump when swapping the cartridge as much faster, and cheaper?

I was just assuming it was easier to swap pump, shut off valves 4 bolts, and that's it. Never changed a cartridge so don't know what's involved. Plus if you had a spare pump you could swap in case of a cracked housing etc. I dont know, was just my line of thinking I guess.

 

[benp]

I was just assuming it was easier to swap pump, shut off valves 4 bolts, and that's it. Never changed a cartridge so don't know what's involved. Plus if you had a spare pump you could swap in case of a cracked housing etc. I dont know, was just my line of thinking I guess.

I agree. I would actually have both the cartridge and new pump. Cartridge craps the bed, throw the new pump on, then take your time figuring out how to replace the cartridge.

Just my .02.

 

[Iska3]

The cartridge is real easy to change, four small screws and you are done. I still like the idea of having an extra pump on hand. The price of the pumps went up over 12% in the past 4 years and the interest on the bank account is a joke. I would have been better off buying the pumps long ago..

 

[olympyk_999]

The cartridge is real easy to change, four small screws and you are done. I still like the idea of having an extra pump on hand. The price of the pumps went up over 12% in the past 4 years and the interest on the bank account is a joke. I would have been better off buying the pumps long ago..

Changing the cartridge is about as easy as it gets...changing the pump if its "hard wired" will take quite a bit longer...if it just plugs into an outlet then that's not too bad.

 

[benp]

Changing the cartridge is about as easy as it gets...changing the pump if its "hard wired" will take quite a bit longer...if it just plugs into an outlet then that's not too bad.

Put the headlamp on, flip the breaker, and get to re-wiring.

I did this quite a bit yesterday cutting and re-establishing power for the supply pump for the replacement pump in my thread.

Two pumps in the stove house, one to shop and one to house. Can't cut power to both for extemded periods when trying to only get one supply side going.

And I HATE dealing with electricity. I know my neighbor was chuckling to himself during all of this....as he has forced me out of a lot of my comfort zones when dealing with situations...and this was one of them.

Is it easier to plug a pig tail back into an outlet. Yes, absolutely but re-hardwiring is only 5-10 min tops behind.

 

[finalwinchester]

Changing the cartridge is about as easy as it gets...changing the pump if its "hard wired" will take quite a bit longer...if it just plugs into an outlet then that's not too bad.

Mines just plugged into an outlet in the back of the boiler, so I could have a spare ready to go and change pumps in about 5 mins. Just never changed a cartridge but sounds pretty easy.

 

[benp]

Sounds like you are on top of it. Be up and running in 5 minutes.

 

[olympyk_999]

Just never changed a cartridge but sounds pretty easy.

this is an 007...buts it the same thing

 

[olympyk_999]

Put the headlamp on, flip the breaker, and get to re-wiring.

I did this quite a bit yesterday cutting and re-establishing power for the supply pump for the replacement pump in my thread.

Two pumps in the stove house, one two shop and one to house. Can't cut power to both for extemded periods when trying to only get one supply side going.

And I HATE dealing with electricity. I know my neighbor was chuckling to himself during all of this....as he has forced me out of a lot of my comfort zones when dealing with situations...and this was one of them.

Is it easier to plug a pig tail back into an outlet. Yes, absolutely but re-hardwiring is only 5-10 min tops behind.

where I work, we have a bank of 20+ taco 009 pumps, most of the system I built, and our electrician ran emt to each pump, with 12" of flex to connect to the pump, he did all that before I put the pumps in, and when I installed them I wired them...its quick, but it just about doubles the install time...not a big deal for the OP but when your dealing with a lot of pumps it adds up...
I work on a lot of of different water pumps, from taco 008's to 60 HP "fire pumps", and many different sizes of vacuum pumps/blowers

 

[benp]

this is an 007...buts it the same thing

Cool!!! Thanks! That clears alot up for me.

However, depending upon the pumps oriention for in/out based on supply lines you still may have to remove the pump to replace the cartridge. Just something to keep in mind.

 

[finalwinchester]

this is an 007...buts it the same thing

Thanks for the video, looks like a piece of cake! I think mine would have to come off though, due to position behind the boiler. Not alot of room to work on it.