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Not only that, a tamerack(larch) 40 ft tall would only be about 6 or 8 inched stem..
Tamarack Tree????
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Not only that, a tamerack(larch) 40 ft tall would only be about 6 or 8 inched stem..
woodbooga
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Not sure if new guy really believed him... but for the first 4 days of the season... he only hunted where the Tamarack groves were.
Gary
Bring him out to a pile of slash and tell 'em to beware of the stump snakes. You know you've stepped on one 'cause you'll hear a snapping sound.
PB
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It's hard to say for sure what it is without a picture. Larix laricina has "bumps" that are rounded in the fall and winter where the needles fall off. If you look at a twig, there will be alternating bumps going down the twig. The should be starting to grow new needles by now though.
They are often found in wet areas as someone has mentioned already.
They are often found in wet areas as someone has mentioned already.
ak4195
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GAry had it right,tamarack= larch,several if not many types.Ive seen them in the willamet valley right along side cedars and fir.Also to the north in very boggy area around Liard Hotsprings in BC.
Here we have Siberian larch and they are just about to explode in green green.NOrmally they start to green up before the birch which is semi dominant,and are the last to turn gold(and of course drop there needles)in the fall.
We have a problem with Larch sawfly,which has spread all the way to stands above/below the arctic circle. Pretty darn tuff tree,to handle the weather.
The Larch(not native to south central alaska) will outgrow spruce/birch in this area.Theres 3 about 500yds north of my house that were planted approx 30 yrs ago by the ole man who homesteaded my property(who is buried beneath there bows).They are about 70' tall and perhaps 16-18" on the butt.'Cept for the porcupine chewing on them,they are very healthy.
ak4195
Here we have Siberian larch and they are just about to explode in green green.NOrmally they start to green up before the birch which is semi dominant,and are the last to turn gold(and of course drop there needles)in the fall.
We have a problem with Larch sawfly,which has spread all the way to stands above/below the arctic circle. Pretty darn tuff tree,to handle the weather.
The Larch(not native to south central alaska) will outgrow spruce/birch in this area.Theres 3 about 500yds north of my house that were planted approx 30 yrs ago by the ole man who homesteaded my property(who is buried beneath there bows).They are about 70' tall and perhaps 16-18" on the butt.'Cept for the porcupine chewing on them,they are very healthy.
ak4195
Ske-bum
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Now I'm really confused
However the Tamarack PINE is one of the best burning of the pine around the sierra. It has very little bark compared to a ponderosa pine and is stringy and hard to split. It doesn't drop it's needles.
PB
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Here is a classic example of why common names suck. Tamarack on the west coast is not the same as the east, or even midwest. The Tamarack here, Larix laricina, is deciduous and drops its needles in the fall. I am not familiar with the species out west, but if it doesn't drop its needles it is probably not in the Larix genus.
woodbooga
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chevytaHOE5674
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I tried bringing in the latin on the first page to try and reduce confusion. Apparently it didn't catch on.
It would be Larix occidentalis in the PNW, and does drop needles. It also has the little nodes like the pic you posted earlier.
ak4195
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Ok,make that Larix sibirica for the northern cousin of the TAMARACK.
http://forestry.about.com/library/tree/bltam.htm
ak4195
Ok,make that Larix sibirica for the northern cousin of the TAMARACK.
http://forestry.about.com/library/tree/bltam.htm
ak4195
We also have a Subalpine Larch, but I can't remember the Larix whatever and I am too lazy to look it up. It is more stunted, and amazingly grows at a higher elevation. There's a lot of them in the Eastern North Cascades.
Or else the elk moved in there too!:greenchainsaw:
Or else the elk moved in there too!:greenchainsaw:
MR4WD
ArboristSite Guru
larix lyallii; Which is called an "alpine larch" here. Looks like charlie browns christmas tree when healthy. In the winter it looks like 3-4 year old dead lodgepole pine.
larix occidentalis, the western larch burns fairly well. Some prefer it over birch, which is our best burning hardwood (over trembling aspen and black cottonwood obviously) but there's next to none around here.
davebell18
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Sorry this took so long. I was very busy. thanks everyone for your help. What kind of tamarack tree is this? Thanks
PB
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If you're from Wisconsin, there is only one tamarack in your state the Larix laricina. The common name is just Tamarack, so you answered your own question.
Metals406
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Looks like a 'true' Tamarack Larch to me... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamarack_Larch
Metals406
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Looks like PB and I posted at the same time. 
GASoline71
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Wow... your trees grow sideways over there... 
Gary
Gary
WidowMaker
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That 2nd picture of the bark looks a lot like spruce...
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Naaa!! Pinyon pine is the "Hardwood" of pines. It is the best pine for heating. Its burns long and hot with medium amount ash. It grows all throughout the western USA and mexico. It has a very aromatic smoke/smell to it. If youve ever been to Santa Fe NM in the fall/winter. Your smelling pinyon smoke!
Wow... your trees grow sideways over there...
Gary
I would be allowed to cut them because they are sideways. :greenchainsaw:
