hornett22
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yeah Ford............
they are doing great right now.
they are doing great right now.
The market in Ireland
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ROLLACOSTA
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BACK ON TOPIC.. are you talking about work in the 6 counties? or setting up a business in the northeast of the 'free state'?
I was out in Donegal last year,I can tell you for sure their isn't a market for tree surgery there..
But over the boarder in Northern Ireland,I know for sure their is a good and steady market.Maybe not quite as busy as other parts of the UK but plenty of work I'm sure..
I will say one thing mate are you planning on climbing yourself? if you are IMO you've left it to late to become any good,most climbers stop climbing around 35-40,and most climbers take 5 years of climbing to become any good.
OFF TOPIC.. I thought all the big stands and parks of hardwood in Ireland were planted by the English/Normans for hunting lodges and the like,for the most Ireland is a pretty tree less country [naturally]..
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When I was in Ireland, most of the treework down in Cork and in Cork city was done by the state owned Coillte. There were smaller companies, but they were mainly landscapers doing trees as an 'extra'. The only sizeable private tree company down there, and sorry, the name escapes me, made alot of his yearly work up by doing line clearance work. I agree with Rollacosta, the north seems to be the place. When I was at agricultural college 20 years ago there was a quite a large contingent of boys from Ulster......all of whom had jobs to return to after college completion. And to all you Irish boys out there, I'm glad that a Limey and a Yank could raise a smile amongst you by arguing about your country. LOL
diltree
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RollaCoster,
Ireland is not a tree less country "naturally", In Fact it shares most of the same hardiness zones that you find In neighboring Great Britain!
http://www.trebrown.com/hrdzone.html
TreeWisemen(great name by the way),
Its cool man the British needed the raw materials; like you said It took amazing amounts of English oak to build one ship. What would the 17th century Irish use the tree's for anyway; make wooden figurines of saint Patrick maybe a few wooden crucifixes...that doesn't take as much wood as a navy does
Ireland is not a tree less country "naturally", In Fact it shares most of the same hardiness zones that you find In neighboring Great Britain!
http://www.trebrown.com/hrdzone.html
TreeWisemen(great name by the way),
Its cool man the British needed the raw materials; like you said It took amazing amounts of English oak to build one ship. What would the 17th century Irish use the tree's for anyway; make wooden figurines of saint Patrick maybe a few wooden crucifixes...that doesn't take as much wood as a navy does
Thetreewisemen
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Watch out Rollacosta, looks like you're gonna get a history lesson aswell! LOL Anyway, shouldn't we all be out pricing up work on a Saturday morning? And the climbing game? Early thirties is maybe just a tad late to be strapping on your kit for the first time. I started at 17 and was pretty much 'broken' by the time I hit 33-34. I'm tall, 6'3'' and us tall guys don't wear as well as you shorter guys. Another Brit, from Yorkshire who I met and became real good mates with over here is 6'4" and climbed for about the same number of years that I did. He has exactly the same damaged lower discs that I have, L4 and L5. However, when you're up a tree, alone, lost in your craft THERE IS NOWT BETTER!! So, if you're gonna go for it, JUST DO IT......as they say! And the best of British luck to ya.......in finding any trees to work on that is, cos there ain't any, cos apparently we stole them all!! LOL
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Bermie
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That's a bit harsh Rolla. I reckon as long as someone is fit, loves trees, willing to study and work hard, mid to late thirties is not too late. A lot of people looking to switch careers at that age are highly self motivated and will do what it takes.
Sure tree guys retire from climbing at 35/40 if they've been doing it since teens or 20's then they've probably got all kinds of RSI injuries and aches and pains.
I could grant you something though if the market is highly competetive then to break in at that age might be more tricky, but hey, give the guy a chance. Even if the climbing part doesn't pan out completely he could still be doing other aspects of tree care if the bug really catches him!
Sorry to talk about you in the abstract Hollismo, do your research, try some taster courses, get some books, TRY it out, have your fallback position... Good Luck
BTW: My parent were from the North..do I get to join the club?
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BTW: My parent were from the North..do I get to join the club?[/QUOTE]
Which club would that be? The deforestation club of Ireland? :greenchainsaw:
BTW: My parent were from the North..do I get to join the club?[/QUOTE]
Which club would that be? The deforestation club of Ireland? :greenchainsaw:
Thor's Hammer
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on topic, there is huge amounts of arb work going on in Eire at the moment, and with the economic situation being what it is, its likely to be good for some time. I'm selling more chippers and equipment into Ireland than the UK.
off topic - Irish American? wotta laugh. the irish pi$$ themselfs laughing at yanks that call themselves 'irish'
if your parents were born in the US, then your AMERICAN! NOT IRISH!
off topic - Irish American? wotta laugh. the irish pi$$ themselfs laughing at yanks that call themselves 'irish'
if your parents were born in the US, then your AMERICAN! NOT IRISH!
diltree
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"off topic - Irish American? wotta laugh. the irish pi$$ themselfs laughing at yanks that call themselves 'irish'
if your parents were born in the US, then your AMERICAN! NOT IRISH!"
What an ignorant statement.......Its clear you don't understand American culture, the united states is a melting pot, people from all over the globe have settled in America, bringing their cultural back rounds with them. African American, Irish American, Italian American, Jewish American, all Americans that are culturally very different. The truth is the only real Americans are native Americans, the rest of us are all immigrants.
if your parents were born in the US, then your AMERICAN! NOT IRISH!"
What an ignorant statement.......Its clear you don't understand American culture, the united states is a melting pot, people from all over the globe have settled in America, bringing their cultural back rounds with them. African American, Irish American, Italian American, Jewish American, all Americans that are culturally very different. The truth is the only real Americans are native Americans, the rest of us are all immigrants.
ROLLACOSTA
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They reckon native Americans ain't the original settlers of the USA,its believed an aboriginal type race live in the Americas long before the mongoloid Asians [present day Indians].
Its believed the mongoloid Asians wiped the Abos out..
Bermie
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Which club would that be? The deforestation club of Ireland? :greenchainsaw:[/QUOTE]
No...the 'I have Irish parents and I was born somewhere else so 'Can I Still Be Irish Club''
Sheesh, this thread is going to destinations unknown!
diltree
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Bermie.....I still think your Irish
DonnyO
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No...the 'I have Irish parents and I was born somewhere else so 'Can I Still Be Irish Club''
Sheesh, this thread is going to destinations unknown![/QUOTE]
It would be more accurate to say, ''Irish blood, English heart"
D Mc
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Hollisimo, I have been climbing 38 going on 39 years and still going strong. It will take five years to gain proficiency but the new climbing equipment and methods are such an improvement over the old ways that you should still fair well, providing you are in good physical shape.
Thor, I know what you say is probably how they (the Irish) feel (and they are not alone) but you can't erase all of your family lineage and history because of your geographical location when you were given birth.
If your cat had kittens in the oven, would you call them biscuits?!!?
DMc
Thor, I know what you say is probably how they (the Irish) feel (and they are not alone) but you can't erase all of your family lineage and history because of your geographical location when you were given birth.
If your cat had kittens in the oven, would you call them biscuits?!!?
DMc
DonnyO
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off topic - Irish American? wotta laugh. the irish pi$$ themselfs laughing at yanks that call themselves 'irish'
if your parents were born in the US, then your AMERICAN! NOT IRISH!
:monkey:
urbanlumberinc
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I don't know about arborists and treemen in specific but the economy in Ireland seems pretty good. I base this upon the fact that everyone was celebrating at the pub everynight while I was there this past summer. On a more serious note though, I drooled (literaly) all over some of the trees over there and in the U.K. Our oldest, largest trees are mere babies compared to some of the oaks, elms and chestnuts I saw.
Thor's Hammer
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heheh, too funny.
I'm not trying do discredit 'Irish' american peoples feelings, just relating what the Irish feel. I was born and bred in Ireland, but of English parents, so I dont call myself Irish.
My ancestors were Viking raiders, but I dont call myself 'Scandinavian British' either.
on topic again, I started climbing when I left school at 16. I can still climb and cut efficiently at 33, but I dont think I would like to do it 5 days a week anymore.
diltree
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"I was born and bred in Ireland, but of English parents, so I don't call myself Irish."
According to your original logic, you should be calling your self Irish.....You were born In Ireland not the United Kingdom.....Don't worry you can still call yourself British, your original logic is flawed
My experiences in Ireland greatly contradict your statements about Irish sentiment towards Irish Americans. In fact the first thing most people said when I introduced myself as "Tim Dillon" was "oh your Irish", and considering I have a heavy Boston accent I'm sure they new I was born in the United States.
According to your original logic, you should be calling your self Irish.....You were born In Ireland not the United Kingdom.....Don't worry you can still call yourself British, your original logic is flawed
My experiences in Ireland greatly contradict your statements about Irish sentiment towards Irish Americans. In fact the first thing most people said when I introduced myself as "Tim Dillon" was "oh your Irish", and considering I have a heavy Boston accent I'm sure they new I was born in the United States.
OTG BOSTON
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Wow Dil you've been takin' it to 'em! You must have been one of those kids who paid attention in school
On topic though, many of the Irish (born there) I know are moving back because the economy has improved so much.
On topic though, many of the Irish (born there) I know are moving back because the economy has improved so much.
D Mc
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heheh, too funny.
I'm not trying do discredit 'Irish' american peoples feelings, just relating what the Irish feel. I was born and bred in Ireland, but of English parents, so I dont call myself Irish.
My ancestors were Viking raiders, but I dont call myself 'Scandinavian British' either.
on topic again, I started climbing when I left school at 16. I can still climb and cut efficiently at 33, but I dont think I would like to do it 5 days a week anymore.
The rules that we choose to live by cannot change the blood that pumps through our hearts. (Note your avatar.) This is why an English oak or a Japanese maple are what they are no matter where they grow.
Hollisimo, please accept my humble apologies for maintaining this off topic discussion.
DMc
