The MS461.........A Peek Inside

[komatsuvarna]

I gotta bad feeling im gonna want one of these 461s after this weekend.....that wrap west coast version sure does look good too. Not sure if i could keep the huskies behaved with that 1 Stihl in the mix!

 

[Tree Sling'r]

I gotta bad feeling im gonna want one of these 461s after this weekend.....that wrap west coast version sure does look good too. Not sure if i could keep the huskies behaved with that 1 Stihl in the mix!

I want one too, don't need one, but I want it. Gimme, Gimme, Gimme!!!!!

 

[Mastermind]

I gotta bad feeling im gonna want one of these 461s after this weekend.....that wrap west coast version sure does look good too. Not sure if i could keep the huskies behaved with that 1 Stihl in the mix!

I'm looking forward to seeing how the one Scott built runs. He builds a strong running saw.....

 

[gtsawyer]

I'm always open to trades on port work. Just Sayin. :msp_smile:

I've got a hungry son I'll throw into the trade too. That should even things out a bit.

 

[Trx250r180]

you did a great job on the saw randy ,the cookies ejecting off the cut was cool ,that thing has some tourque ,it will have a 7 pin and 32 inch bar when it gets home .like i said before if you need more time for r&d im not in a hurry to get it home ,it was just bought mainly for info for the arborsite members

 

[Trx250r180]

Well since ya'll took the time and effort to write it I guess I better go read it all. From a Fallers p.o.v. I have about 5 questions tho.
1. What's the powerhead weight with the powerhead that was in the first video?
2. Are the handles stretched out like the 441 s were ie further apart than the 460 s
3. Does iit have a good old fashion single barrel Carb?
4. Does it hold more gas and oil then the 460 .
5. Can it be adjusted so it screams but still have GOOD torque.
6. Will it out stump a 460 ?

No spring mounts is a bummer.
I LIKE the rear mounted ignition! !!!!!!!!!!!
I like the handle bar, more room than the 460 . It would be sweet if the Weber 460 hb would bolt right on tho.

Sorry, 6 questions.

the handlebar apears to be right off a 460 ,its the same as one on mine ,the dual port muffler was also off a 460 as the sprocket cover ,it feels just like one ,the upper plastics are slimmer though kinda husky 372 width for comparison here is specs out of my owners manual
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[Trx250r180]

heres some images taken before sent to randy
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[gcdible1]

What's in Randy's belly?

I realized that I had the aspect ratio set wrong on my camera when Niko kept talking about the square cants being out of square........you guys have no idea how big my belly really is.

So Randy are you telling us you may just be brewing us up a new baby saw in there?

The real question is will it be a Stihl, Husky, Jonnie, or what? I'll call Maury and we will find out...

 

[mtrees]

i realized that i had the aspect ratio set wrong on my camera when niko kept talking about the square cants being out of square........you guys have no idea how big my belly really is.

pie!!

 

[Mastermind]

pie!!

Mike do you mind if I break in your port job on the 576 on the WKY GTG? :msp_mellow:

 

[mdavlee]

That saw looks good Randy. Almost good enough for me to want one.:msp_thumbup:

Iv'e got a 9 pin hanging on the wall here if you want to stop by and get it anthony.

 

[Mastermind]

That saw looks good Randy. Almost good enough for me to want one.:msp_thumbup:

Iv'e got a 9 pin hanging on the wall here if you want to stop by and get it anthony.

"The Wiggs" called me up and scolded me because my chain was too grabby. He said I made the saw look bad with my ineffective filing.

 

[mdavlee]

It might have been a hair grabby. Nothing bad I didn't think. You get a grinder yet?

 

[tramp bushler]

Thank you guys! !! It looks like they have Not over thunk it. Thats good! 13,5 is a good rpm. Course 17 k would be better :cool2:
Spring mounts would have been an added plus! As I have my eyes on the 390 Husky I'll probably pass this up for a while. But I'll get one way before I get a 576 . Good old fashioned single barrel Carb is a major plus for me. If they made it in the R with heated handle bar it might be my next saw.
Thanks again! !

 

[HEAVY FUEL]

It might have been a hair grabby. Nothing bad I didn't think. You get a grinder yet?

He wouldn't have that problem if he'd just wait for the wood to freeze good & solid.

 

[tramp bushler]

Chain looked OK to me. BUT, I haven't cut any real hardwood in a long long time.
In the bottom of the cuts on the video I appreciate him hoggin it thru the cut. Shows the saw has good torque. . Nice to see it will pull more wood than the dia that was being cut.
Thats about how much I load the motor when putting in the Humbolt face cut or tearing off the back cut when a tree takes off fast. For buckin I keep the rpm up, keeps the bar groove cleaned out and puts more oil in the bar.

Great vid. !!

 

[mtrees]

Mike do you mind if I break in your port job on the 576 on the WKY GTG? :msp_mellow:

Nope have at it!! Picking up a 461 Wednesday. I'm interested to see the comparison.

 

[user 64030]

If they made it in the R with heated handle bar it might be my next saw....

They do make the R maode as this is one, but Stihl no longer makes any saw w/ a heated grip. I wrote Stihl and posted the responce here --> http://www.arboristsite.com/chainsaw/212017-5.htm#post3906482 post #75

dw

 

[Tree Sling'r]

Will a MS460 coil un-limit this saw or is the carb limited as well? Great job BTW.

 

[Trx250r180]

Will a MS460 coil un-limit this saw or is the carb limited as well? Great job BTW.

this quote was on another site ,it apears he put a 460 coil on for tuning
no wires to the carb ,looks right off a 460 except throttle lever linkage has extra dowl on it


That was my impression also after I 'dissected' my first MS461.
No complications.
But fine tuning the carb would be a pain because of the speed limiter at 13500 rpm.Anything above that causes the tachometer to go berserk.
Doing a 'by ear' tune-up is a bit dicey for me because I need time to get familiar with this saw
I found an easy fix for that!
When you want to adjust the carb, replace the ignition module with that of a MS460. That eliminates the speed limiter. Do the tuning and refit the original module.
This method improved the performance by at least 15%.