The "Not So Pro" discussion thread...of course Pros are welcome!

[twochains]

Sorry fellas I was on an anti narcissism thing for a minute. Some people are just so into themselves I guess. Soft maple you say TC? Did you buy some?

No, I didn't buy any...I ran across it in that hollar I'm cutting in. All Maple around here was planted around old house places. I am going to take a guess at the 30's or 40's era. I have a theory that the CCC guys may have brought it in to this area when they had all their camps over in the NF.

 

[treeslayer2003]

next time I get a nice one, might get some sawed up ta see what it looks like

 

[rwoods]

I have such a copperhead problem at my house...I get 4 or 5 hounds a year bit and I kill another 10 a year on average inside the dogs chain circles. The exposed rocky ground directly behind my house good hiding places I guess. The pygmy rattler is what scares me the most...they are very small and their rattlers are tiny and almost silent. They pack quite the punch also...I fed one a mouse, instant paralysis to the bite side of the mouse. The cane breaks will let you know they are there generally, but the fact that they ambush squirrels at the base of trees makes them the most dangerous to loggers that cut on the Forest Service side of the river.

TC, maybe you should get you some piney woods rooters. Of course, that might be swapping one problem for another. Eliminating their prey could be another solution.

I've never seen a pygmy rattler in the wild. And despite my mother's fears I have never run across a rattler except on or along a road. Seen some bigs ones though. When I was in grade school I was riding with my mother and she ran over the biggest rattler I have ever seen. She backed up several times until she wounded it enough to hold it at bay while she sought help from the two men manning the fire tower. Using a pitch fork they stretched it across the county road to get some idea of its size. It went from the edge to the second yellow line. It was huge - probably 7 feet plus long and 8 inches or more across. Being a part of the polite society of the day, they told my mother that they could get $2 a foot for it at the Ross Allen Institute and asked her if they could have it as if it were something dear to her. Shoot, she would have given them our grocery money for killing it. They tossed it in the back of the State Power Wagon and left smiling big. I had two rattler skins each just over 6 feet from snakes that my dad killed while logging but I had to part with them when I married.

Ron

Another ps to all: Despite all the ribbing you regulars get, your attitude and openness are appreciated. I see some questions being asked here and on other logging sub-forums that probably would not have been asked before. And yes, no one really believes that you think one size fits all.

 

[jrcat]

this is the SM along side my driveway its a big boy

 

[treeslayer2003]

I fear ya might not lol..........dunno many cutters that get rich lol........but there is the lotto I guess lol

oh, i'm starting on my second million now......gave up on the first :msp_biggrin:

 

[jrcat]

next time I get a nice one, might get some sawed up ta see what it looks like

It depends on growing conditions. When it has to fight for sun light it grows straight and tall but if on wet ground it gets wormy if on dry or gravel ground the worms wont be present. If in swampy ground its like giant red brush with multiple stems growing from one stump. Ive seen some on the allegheny river with 5 to 10 20" diameter stems ....

 

[treeslayer2003]

he a big one cat. rwoods my pop so afraid of snakes he used ta quit march go back oct. we got a few copper heads, mostly black snakes.

 

[jrcat]

he a big one cat. rwoods my pop so afraid of snakes he used ta quit march go back oct. we got a few copper heads, mostly black snakes.

13ft in diameter... not to shabby lol. We have some rattlers in NY but not in my area... east of here next county over.

 

[treeslayer2003]

It depends on growing conditions. When it has to fight for sun light it grows straight and tall but if on wet ground it gets wormy if on dry or gravel ground the worms wont be present. If in swampy ground its like giant red brush with multiple stems growing from one stump. Ive seen some on the allegheny river with 5 to 10 20" diameter stems ....

they can get big here, won't grow on good ground very well. gotta be jus right ta get good ones.
I have cut some whoppers, but mostly they a crooked hollow mess.

 

[jrcat]

A lot of the swamp growers here get sawn into blocking and RR ties. Cab be bought on the cheap. $100 per thousand standing.

 

[bustedup]

13ft in diameter... not to shabby lol. We have some rattlers in NY but not in my area... east of here next county over.

you sure that not 13' circumference???

 

[twochains]

rwoods-Funny you mention "piney rooters", some dog running buddies and I had a cattle pot load of them tear out and find their way to the forest! Ha! They were the real deal too, I think they were originally trapped in Georgia. I used to raise a bunch of wild hogs had (37) head and all their pigs. You can spot a "piney rooter" from a mile away...look more similar to rats than ones with a little bit of Russian in them.

Thanks for your p.s. comment also Sir! :msp_thumbup:

 

[treeslayer2003]

man I ain't bought no timber that cheap in a while. saw timber starts at 125 here and I bet you get more for it. prices crazy here.

 

[twochains]

I have to hit the hay! Gonna kick the chickens off their roost in the morning! Ya'll behave! Cheers!

 

[bustedup]

I have to hit the hay! Gonna kick the chickens off their roost in the morning! Ya'll behave! Cheers!

stay safe bro

 

[treeslayer2003]

I have to hit the hay! Gonna kick the chickens off their roost in the morning! Ya'll behave! Cheers!

take it easy man

 

[bustedup]

I'll catch y'all later too match sticks are no working no more


y'all stay safe

 

[jrcat]

you sure that not 13' circumference???

I dont know . Yeah it is circumference.

 

[jrcat]

Im off guys.

 

[treeslayer2003]

I'll catch y'all later too match sticks are no working no more


y'all stay safe

later busted

nite cat