The "Not So Pro" discussion thread...of course Pros are welcome!

[tramp bushler]

Did someone say "love" and PM800 in the same sentence. Yes, I :msp_wub: PM800s. And, no, none of mine are for sale. You can look at most of them though. Ron

Bottom row are all PM800s except middle saw is a PM700 and right end saw is a PM8200. All are weekend runners. Top row bow saw was my grandfather's. It hasn't been cranked in over thirty years. Kickback sent me to the hospital and the saw to the shelf. The others are all SP125Cs.

It all started with this little tree that was growing in my yard. Several of these MACs in this picture are gone to better homes as I standardized my herd.

http://www.arboristsite.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=300527&d=1371355354

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You may possibly need counseling. :msp_scared:

Just kidding. . That's quite a herd.... wow!

 

[jrcat]

You may possibly need counseling. :msp_scared:

Just kidding. . That's quite a herd.... wow!

Dont tell him that you are kidding lol.. Lead him to believe that he NEEDS the counseling then maybe he'll let up off one of those pm800's lol

 

[rwoods]

Probably do need some counseling. I got started on the PM800s because just a couple of years ago price-wise they seemed to be the step-child of the 82cc MACs (about 3 for the price of one nice old styled PM850) but now you can pick up a SP125 for less than a nice PM800. I think too many folks have read the MAC literature posted in the chainsaw forum that says the PM800 has more ponys than a PM850 and lists later model 82cc MACs at 7.5 hp. BTW I got yesterday's mishap beyond me and the saw is running. FWIW with their big old mufflers they really don't sound like MACs of yesteryear. Ron

 

[rwoods]

Despite my earlier post about giving advice, I do have some advice that may be of worth to some of you (don't take offense as I have no one in mind). I was going to tell you to check out the video of Gologit falling a tree in the tree falling thread but alas it has been deleted. My advice is not so much technical but simply to point out Bob's straightforward approach. He sizes up the tree before approaching it. Then he simply walks over, fires up his saw, put in his face cut, falls it with his backcut and gets away as it falls - no fanfare, no diddling, no "go, stop and go" sawing, no repeated checking and rechecking his cuts, no going side to side or needless walking around the tree. Of course he is a smart dude and a highly experienced faller which helps immeasurably with skill and confidence. However, I think his fine example is something we should all strive to reach. He would be the first to tell you that his cuts are not always perfect or line up like he intended, that things don't always go according to plan, and that any tree can kill you; but as shown in his approach to this tree he doesn't let that interfere with going about his business. IMHO many of the fallers I watch on Youtube spend way too much time at the tree trying to get everything perfect or doubting themselves, which in many cases only increases the risk of death or injury (I am not just referring to those who take the short bar poke and carve approach to falling). Maybe, Bob will see fit to post his video again. If he doesn't hopefully my description will suffice.

Internet has been going on and off all day so I'll call it an evening, Gents. Ron

 

[roberte]

Ron, I tend to agree with you.
Size up get in , get out. No fanfare.

 

[northmanlogging]

Despite my earlier post about giving advice, I do have some advice that may be of worth to some of you (don't take offense as I have no one in mind). I was going to tell you to check out the video of Gologit falling a tree in the tree falling thread but alas it has been deleted. My advice is not so much technical but simply to point out Bob's straightforward approach. He sizes up the tree before approaching it. Then he simply walks over, fires up his saw, put in his face cut, falls it with his backcut and gets away as it falls - no fanfare, no diddling, no "go, stop and go" sawing, no repeated checking and rechecking his cuts, no going side to side or needless walking around the tree. Of course he is a smart dude and a highly experienced faller which helps immeasurably with skill and confidence. However, I think his fine example is something we should all strive to reach. He would be the first to tell you that his cuts are not always perfect or line up like he intended, that things don't always go according to plan, and that any tree can kill you; but as shown in his approach to this tree he doesn't let that interfere with going about his business. IMHO many of the fallers I watch on Youtube spend way too much time at the tree trying to get everything perfect or doubting themselves, which in many cases only increases the risk of death or injury (I am not just referring to those who take the short bar poke and carve approach to falling). Maybe, Bob will see fit to post his video again. If he doesn't hopefully my description will suffice.

Internet has been going on and off all day so I'll call it an evening, Gents. Ron

Yup make a plan get in get it done, I still check to make sure my cuts line up, but I don't spend an hour second guessing myself. I'm nowhere near the same league as say Tarzan, Gologit, greenwedge, tramp, RandyMac, or many others. Mostly I'm just lucky. I do like watching the hacks cut a tree though, makes me feel so much better about myself...

 

[roberte]

Yup make a plan get in get it done, I still check to make sure my cuts line up, but I don't spend an hour second guessing myself. I'm nowhere near the same league as say Tarzan, Gologit, greenwedge, tramp, RandyMac, or many others. Mostly I'm just lucky. I do like watching the hacks cut a tree though, makes me feel so much better about myself...

You haven't seen me hack. :msp_biggrin:

 

[northmanlogging]

There was/is a former member here, he made some videos... It was kinda sad but funny, like watching the geeky kid try out for football, you could tell he really wanted to be a pro logger... but you could totally hear his mom cheering him on in the backround... and count the times his saw ate dirt...


My saw ate dirt today, but I blame the log I was bucking for stuffing it into the ground at full throttle... and then pinching it...

 

[roberte]

There was/is a former member here, he made some videos... It was kinda sad but funny, like watching the geeky kid try out for football, you could tell he really wanted to be a pro logger... but you could totally hear his mom cheering him on in the backround... and count the times his saw ate dirt...


My saw ate dirt today, but I blame the log I was bucking for stuffing it into the ground at full throttle... and then pinching it...

Hey, it happens . Friggen log .

 

[HuskStihl]

That Bob video was great. Looked it over, smallish Humboldt, backcut, pound a wedge, finish the backcut and walk away. Not one wasted movement.
I'm looking forward to TB's video. I wish more of the big boys would put em up. Bitz is about the only one who's good for a bunch of videos with good explanations.
Of course, this is a forum for those guys to hang out and not have to teach noobs technique, but I'm glad when they're willing

 

[northmanlogging]

And finally I felt good about hand filling a chisel chain too, was cuttin real nice, limbs would just jump out of the way... felling entire forests with just the pull of a starter cord... and stuff... then what do I do, stuff it into the damn dirt, in the middle of a road no less.

 

[roberte]

And finally I felt good about hand filling a chisel chain too, was cuttin real nice, limbs would just jump out of the way... felling entire forests with just the pull of a starter cord... and stuff... then what do I do, stuff it into the damn dirt, in the middle of a road no less.

That dam chain should have known better

 

[Cfaller]

There was/is a former member here, he made some videos... It was kinda sad but funny, like watching the geeky kid try out for football, you could tell he really wanted to be a pro logger... but you could totally hear his mom cheering him on in the backround... and count the times his saw ate dirt...


My saw ate dirt today, but I blame the log I was bucking for stuffing it into the ground at full throttle... and then pinching it...

Sounds like my day. Took me three tries to get my sloping cut of the humboldt to line up in a 36 inch DF. The triangle Coos bay turned out good.:msp_biggrin:

 

[Gologit]

Despite my earlier post about giving advice, I do have some advice that may be of worth to some of you (don't take offense as I have no one in mind). I was going to tell you to check out the video of Gologit falling a tree in the tree falling thread but alas it has been deleted. My advice is not so much technical but simply to point out Bob's straightforward approach. He sizes up the tree before approaching it. Then he simply walks over, fires up his saw, put in his face cut, falls it with his backcut and gets away as it falls - no fanfare, no diddling, no "go, stop and go" sawing, no repeated checking and rechecking his cuts, no going side to side or needless walking around the tree. Of course he is a smart dude and a highly experienced faller which helps immeasurably with skill and confidence. However, I think his fine example is something we should all strive to reach. He would be the first to tell you that his cuts are not always perfect or line up like he intended, that things don't always go according to plan, and that any tree can kill you; but as shown in his approach to this tree he doesn't let that interfere with going about his business. IMHO many of the fallers I watch on Youtube spend way too much time at the tree trying to get everything perfect or doubting themselves, which in many cases only increases the risk of death or injury (I am not just referring to those who take the short bar poke and carve approach to falling). Maybe, Bob will see fit to post his video again. If he doesn't hopefully my description will suffice.

Internet has been going on and off all day so I'll call it an evening, Gents. Ron

Ron, thanks for the kind words. I'm not really any better than a lot of guys I know and my skill sets are common and easily learned. I've just had a little more practice than some people.

The only thing I know for sure, after fifty years of putting wood on the ground, is not to work any darn harder at it than I have to.:msp_biggrin: That means planning your work for the maximum yield with a minimum of effort, staying aware of your surroundings, and knowing when to correct small mistakes before they become big ones. A little luck doesn't hurt either.

Here's the video. It's just an average tree on an average day.


[video]http://s691.photobucket.com/user/gologit/media/Misc%20logging/P1290018.mp4.html[/video]

 

[RandyMac]

We have a 70,000 property in southern West Virginia on which we currently have only one crew working. WE NEED LOGGERS and are paying VERY good rates with commitments. It's not just us, everyone in West Virginia is looking for loggers. Particularly in the southern part of the state. The terrain is mountainous, steep and rocky. The timber is hardwood consisting of oak, poplar, maples, cherry, etc.. Pay is weekly and it's never late. If you are a logger and are interested I may be reached at 304-704-8036. If you don't catch me I'm probably in the woods. Leave me a message and I'll call you back. PLEASE don't call unless you are serious and capable of coming here and working.

Also, most owner/operators here cannot find cutters. If you're a cutter who is willing to relocate to southern West Virginia then I can put you in touch with someone.

Anthony Raines
Forester
American Forest Management
304-704-8036

 

[jrcat]

Where did you find that at Randy?

 

[RandyMac]

Where did you find that at Randy?

https://www.facebook.com/LoggingRiggingMenAndTimberFallers?hc_location=stream

 

[jrcat]

Thank you Randy. Might look in to it some. My daughters go with their mother for the entire summer .. might be a good option for some work if nothing picks up here. Thanks again.

 

[bustedup]

juss spoke to the guy

 

[bustedup]

https://www.facebook.com/LoggingRiggingMenAndTimberFallers?hc_location=stream

Thanks Randy much appreciated brathair