Thank's Bob! You waiting on another dog, and the loss thing. I totally understand. I have lost to many, it never heal's completely, but for the time they are here it's unbelievable the love, and joy they give. Kimble I was alway's a dog man until I met Jeanie, who was alway's a cat woman. I got two that I was really attached to, just before we met, and I move'd off the ranch, I was caretaking. Two little black cat's. Dinky, and Bub. I think a fox got dinky, and that hurt. Jeanie, and I move'd to Hopland, and Bub got hit by a car. That one hurt me, my dog's love'd him, and he my dog's. We have 3 inside, and three outside cat's now. As we speak little kitten, I call her Kitler is on the couch with me. Brian that's awesome, on the saw, and the climb. In time you will get there, I wish you were closer, my friend could work with ya, he is one of the best I ever met.