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Kind of a before and after, if you look close you can see the yarder, with the orange tip on the end of the boom. Everything skidded up to it, cut timber on the ground behind, and the tree wall in the back is what I was coming up today. Nice select cut. Crappy pic.

Ayuh, I see it, the pic ain't too bad, a little small maybe, as I get a little "older" I find I'm using the "zoom" feature a lot more.....:hmm3grin2orange:
 
Cary I love those 272's!! Love em. Randy you are a young buck too! Sam great to see you, be safe my friend.

.....true enough Norm, and I have the greatest respect for all the guys (even the "young" ones) that do this type of work, even "part time".....:bowdown:
.....well, have a safe day y'all, it's make coffee and go to work time again.....
 
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Brian, I didn't really think about it when I logged on this morning(was still waking up :hmm3grin2orange: ) on that pine you topped, looked like it was dying, how much life was left in it? The reason I ask is, dead/dying trees can be some of the most unpredictable trees to work with. Of course, as you said in your post, learn from it, improve your technique, and just a reminder, BEFORE you make the back cut always double check your "work". Recheck the lean, recheck the face cut, recheck/scan your "gear"/equipment. You can "correct" or re-cut a bad face cut (as long as your pride doesn't get in the way :msp_wink: ), you can cut a few limbs off the back to "help" the lean or put a rope in it to pull it, you can always re-tie a knot or reset/re-position your "gear"/equipment. You can do ALL of that BEFORE you make the back cut, you can't do any of it after, not beatin' up on ya' at all, just trying to help you out a little bit. Great pics, look forward to seeing some more.....

Work safe. :msp_thumbsup:

Hey Brian,
Had to go back and pull up an earlier post you put up to ask a "bike tech" question, the bottom bracket bearings on my bike are "creaking", I snugged 'em down a little but that didn't seem to help, as far as I know they are still in good shape, no ratcheting or binding, still turning nice and smooth, is there a way to stop them from "creaking" when I pedal or is there something else I need to check? :dunno: :arg:
Hope your tree work is going better for you this week, remember, double check and don't be afraid to correct if needed. :msp_thumbup: Look forward to seeing more pics. ;)
Thanks Brian.

Work safe. :msp_thumbsup:

The pine was just about dead. It was on its way to being another beetle kill. The course had some renovations about 5-6 years ago, and some of the trees are showing some stress, and the beetles are attacking some of the pines. I should have refaced it, but if the back cut would have been better positioned it probably would have turned out better. Just need to practice more. Will be awhile before another tree gets removed. Saw another today that is dying so maybe that will be the next one. As for the bike, did you tighten the crank arms? Should be a 8mm allen, and if one is loose its usually the non-drive side. Otherwise if you can I would pull the BB and grease it real good. Some are just prone to creaking.

Norm, Aaron I know what your talking about being sore LOL. If your back is fubared, tree work is even harder LOL. Last week sucked, couldnt hardly bend over to pick up anything. Funny thing is it wasnt tree work that hurt my back, it was running LOL. This week is much better, pain gone.

Sam great pic, love seeing your pics.
 
The pine was just about dead. It was on its way to being another beetle kill. The course had some renovations about 5-6 years ago, and some of the trees are showing some stress, and the beetles are attacking some of the pines. I should have refaced it, but if the back cut would have been better positioned it probably would have turned out better. Just need to practice more. Will be awhile before another tree gets removed. Saw another today that is dying so maybe that will be the next one. As for the bike, did you tighten the crank arms? Should be a 8mm allen, and if one is loose its usually the non-drive side. Otherwise if you can I would pull the BB and grease it real good. Some are just prone to creaking.

Norm, Aaron I know what your talking about being sore LOL. If your back is fubared, tree work is even harder LOL. Last week sucked, couldnt hardly bend over to pick up anything. Funny thing is it wasnt tree work that hurt my back, it was running LOL. This week is much better, pain gone.

Sam great pic, love seeing your pics.

Hey Brian,
yes, the more "hands on" experience you get the better your work will be, stay with it and don't get discouraged. :msp_thumbup:
I've been doing some running to "get back in shape" and I'm very thankful, as much "physical abuse" that I put my body through, still have never had back trouble.
Ayuh, I did tighten the crank arms, I'll pull the bearings and grease 'em up and see if that helps, THANKS!!!

Work safe. :msp_thumbsup:
 
Ayuh, I see it, the pic ain't too bad, a little small maybe, as I get a little "older" I find I'm using the "zoom" feature a lot more.....:hmm3grin2orange:

I'm with you, anymore I panic if I can't find my glasses when it's time to head out in the dark in the morning. Then there's the back brace, knee brace.....:dizzy:......lol.
 
Good Morning Randy. Its way to early, never get used to being up early LOL. Another thing I forgot to mention about the bike, is check cables that may be routed around the BB. Sometimes they can be the culprit causing the noise.
 
Good Morning Randy. Its way to early, never get used to being up early LOL. Another thing I forgot to mention about the bike, is check cables that may be routed around the BB. Sometimes they can be the culprit causing the noise.

4:30am is early even when you're used to it, :tire: good morning and good afternoon. No cables around the BB, just the cable that moves the front derailleur and that's routed on the down tube. I'll go with the "pull out, grease and re-assemble" and see how that works out, when I can get some time to do it. :laugh: Thanks again! :msp_thumbup:
Hey, how much do you run, days per week, # of miles, just curious.....?

Went over to visit my brother in law yesterday, said he had "some trees he'd like to have cut down", turned out to be a couple cherry trees and 8 - 10 pines. This might keep me busy for "a little while". :D We'll see what happens. :popcorn:
Have a safe rest of the week! :)

Work safe. :msp_thumbsup:
 
Missed ya brothers! Hello and checking in, off to same spot Aaron went last Saturday. The pole saw and road trimming work. Trimming a long the road. Be a early morning, tommorow.
 
going to try to get this on a lowboy, it's azz is to big for the bunks and the self loader can't pic it up.
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Now that's just SICK !!!! HUGE ... COLLOSAL !!!!

You know you're supposed to stick a saw in the hole in the middle of that tree, just for perspective.... As a last resort, you could measure it and let us know how big !!!
 
Now that's just SICK !!!! HUGE ... COLLOSAL !!!!

You know you're supposed to stick a saw in the hole in the middle of that tree, just for perspective.... As a last resort, you could measure it and let us know how big !!!

about 11' on the butt.rott goes about 3 to 4' up. we would like to stand it up at the grounds and use it for springboard demo's. if not it will be cut up for the carvers. only a couple miles from the museum.
 
about 11' on the butt.rott goes about 3 to 4' up. we would like to stand it up at the grounds and use it for springboard demo's. if not it will be cut up for the carvers. only a couple miles from the museum.

That's mind-boggling ! I bet you could fit 2 big saws in the hole in the middle, Easily.

I get so jealous when I see big-ass trees like that, I freak out when I can bury the 16" bar in a tree and not see the tip. And they're few and far between, they've been logging the pixx out of my area for about 100 years, there's nothing older than 50 or so years standing now, except on private land and near waterways. There are some nice trees further west, some virgin forest they're getting into now. The cedar planks I ripped for my shed came from there.
 
4:30am is early even when you're used to it, :tire: good morning and good afternoon. No cables around the BB, just the cable that moves the front derailleur and that's routed on the down tube. I'll go with the "pull out, grease and re-assemble" and see how that works out, when I can get some time to do it. :laugh: Thanks again! :msp_thumbup:
Hey, how much do you run, days per week, # of miles, just curious.....?

Went over to visit my brother in law yesterday, said he had "some trees he'd like to have cut down", turned out to be a couple cherry trees and 8 - 10 pines. This might keep me busy for "a little while". :D We'll see what happens. :popcorn:
Have a safe rest of the week! :)

Work safe. :msp_thumbsup:

Dont run near as much as I used to, used to run 3-4 days a week and about 3 miles each run. Now I just run every now and again. Have been doing more of a crossfit style workout and much less running. Before the kids were born I was doing a mile in under 7 minutes and 3 miles in about 23ish minutes. Not even close to that now, it dosnt stay with you lol. Nice thing about working for the fire dept. is that exercise is supposed to be part of our daily activities. So I try to take full advantage, just dont have time to exercise outside of that. Good luck with the trees hope they all go smooth.
 
That's mind-boggling ! I bet you could fit 2 big saws in the hole in the middle, Easily.

I get so jealous when I see big-ass trees like that, I freak out when I can bury the 16" bar in a tree and not see the tip. And they're few and far between, they've been logging the pixx out of my area for about 100 years, there's nothing older than 50 or so years standing now, except on private land and near waterways. There are some nice trees further west, some virgin forest they're getting into now. The cedar planks I ripped for my shed came from there.

Logging is only part of the reason IMO. Another reason is how dense or close the trees are to one another. Even in fairly virgin land that hasn't been logged ever or maybe a 100 years ago you won't see to many big ones. By that I mean over 30-36"- 90% will be under that mark. As rather than going in width and being extremely branched out they go in height to get to sunlight. The time when you see behemoths is in a field like for example a farm or something where the trees are much more sparse and they have never been logged. But these are usually big silver maples, willows, and so forth-trees that grow to be very big in a short period of time. But to see an entire dense forest of over 3 foot diameter trees being the majority, I have yet to see that in Ontario. This is just from what ive seen on some lot clearing sites ive been to, they were all private land bought by the developers. Also when ive gone to forests up north on fishing or hunting trips very few huge ones. Although on a fishing trip in Muskoka is where I saw a 6 foot plus diameter oak and it was in a forest to.
 
Dont run near as much as I used to, used to run 3-4 days a week and about 3 miles each run. Now I just run every now and again. Have been doing more of a crossfit style workout and much less running. Before the kids were born I was doing a mile in under 7 minutes and 3 miles in about 23ish minutes. Not even close to that now, it dosnt stay with you lol. Nice thing about working for the fire dept. is that exercise is supposed to be part of our daily activities. So I try to take full advantage, just dont have time to exercise outside of that. Good luck with the trees hope they all go smooth.

Hey Brian,
.....just got settled down after getting out of "work", still pretty bust at the shop. :msp_thumbup:
I'm not a "runner" by any stretch of the imagination and I really don't like running BUT, the benefits FAR out weigh the "pain and suffering". I've been running in the summer for "many years" to try and stay in some kind of good physical condition, the last couple summers my schedule has been pretty loaded up so I didn't run much. This summer I committed to running at least 4 days a week, in April after my very first time running I went home and moved some stuff around in the house and while running upstairs to get something I badly pulled my left calf muscle, that shut me down for 2 months. :bang: I've been running 4 days a week, for the last 5 weeks, 1 mile each time. Last week I ran 2 miles one day and this week I ran 2 miles one day. Little by little I'm "working" my way back, and NO, it doesn't stay with you. :hmm3grin2orange: One reason I'm running now is, of course, to get in shape(and lose weight:msp_tongue:), but it will also be a huge help with my tree work. :msp_thumbup:
Ayuh, I went and got a video "walk around" of the trees at my brother in law's place, 1 Poplar, 2 Cherries, and 8 Pines(mostly Red Pine, a few White). Some of 'em are going to need "a bit" of rigging to get them down safely but it doesn't look like it will be "too much" trouble. Pics and video are now "standard operating procedure".:D
Have a good weekend.

Work safe. :msp_thumbsup:
 
Logging is only part of the reason IMO. Another reason is how dense or close the trees are to one another. Even in fairly virgin land that hasn't been logged ever or maybe a 100 years ago you won't see to many big ones. By that I mean over 30-36"- 90% will be under that mark. As rather than going in width and being extremely branched out they go in height to get to sunlight. The time when you see behemoths is in a field like for example a farm or something where the trees are much more sparse and they have never been logged. But these are usually big silver maples, willows, and so forth-trees that grow to be very big in a short period of time. But to see an entire dense forest of over 3 foot diameter trees being the majority, I have yet to see that in Ontario. This is just from what ive seen on some lot clearing sites ive been to, they were all private land bought by the developers. Also when ive gone to forests up north on fishing or hunting trips very few huge ones. Although on a fishing trip in Muskoka is where I saw a 6 foot plus diameter oak and it was in a forest to.

I agree Alex, there is a huge difference in trees that grow together in a forest and trees that grow alone in a field or yard. :msp_thumbup:
They have no "competition" out in the open so they grow faster, shorter, with a really big crown. In the forest they "reach" for the sun, competing with other trees so they don't gain a lot of DBH, instead they grow tall and straight with a considerably smaller crown. Really interesting stuff when you start learning about it. :msp_thumbsup:
 

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