this is a hard life

[treevet]

We have been a little slow with the economy and holiday coming up. But a big blow just went thru here and busted some stuff up. It has been mild lately probably kind of like the big "4 cottonwood" job with some laughs with pals and for the most part no discomfort.

But since it has been slow and now we got some work you gotta do it no matter what. The next two mornings we will be going out in 15 degree weather and it will peak in the low 20's plus strong wind gusts. Got to climb a big tall dead sugar maple tomorrow and the following day a tall locust that is split right to the ground and just floating around like a couple of big rubber telephone poles in between 2 houses and multi wires on both sides right under it.

Sometimes it is great but sometimes it is just nasty. Be it cold or hot and humid, bugs or bees all over, or you have to climb with an injury or the flu to make payments, sometimes this is just a hard life. Used to be even harder when I threw 2 am drinking binge hangovers in to the mix but that numbed it somewhat.

 

[Mikecutstrees]

yeah glad my hard drinking days are over too! Seems like as soon as the weather gets nasty the work gets neck deep. We have a ton of work here, Big removals, pruning and today we got 4 inches of snow and sleet. I'm glad were busy but I'd rather bust my butt when the weather makes things a little easier, I mean why do people wait untill winter arrives to call. Oh well I'll take a few pictures next week.... Mike

 

[tree MDS]

I hear you on all the above TV. After my latest bout of treeworkin, think I need to send myself off to bidding school or something. Loading logs under the tractor headlights (before snowstorm hit) for chump change at 8:00 at night, 45 mins from home, sort of secured that notion. At least I try to charge enough...sometimes I wonder if I'm retarded or something though.

I've still got two massive trees to prune and cable too. One aint too bad at $1800, the other I just sort of threw $1800 at it as well, the latter of the two I know I'm gonna lose my :censored: on after looking at it more while losing my :censored: on the above mentioned takedown.

The things the threat of winter and having payments will do to a tree guy. Lol.

 

[Treetom]

Big blow comin' north

TreeVet. Some of that wet and nasty stuff went through here, too, slushy snow that felt as heavy as wet cement. Minimal damage so far. Climbing in the cold sucks, add some wind chill and it's dangerous, a little freezing rain on top of that and it's time to go home. Work safe.

 

[Blakesmaster]

I was hoping with the wind and the heavy, wet snow somthin' would get trashed near me but alas, my phone's still silent. So it goes.

 

[treevet]

Don't get me wrong Blakes, the phone ain't ringin off the hook here like it usually would with a blow like that.

 

[Tree Pig]

I hear you on all the above TV. After my latest bout of treeworkin, think I need to send myself off to bidding school or something. Loading logs under the tractor headlights (before snowstorm hit) for chump change at 8:00 at night, 45 mins from home, sort of secured that notion. At least I try to charge enough...sometimes I wonder if I'm retarded or something though.

I've still got two massive trees to prune and cable too. One aint too bad at $1800, the other I just sort of threw $1800 at it as well, the latter of the two I know I'm gonna lose my :censored: on after looking at it more while losing my :censored: on the above mentioned takedown.

The things the threat of winter and having payments will do to a tree guy. Lol.

The biggest problem is there is a widening gap between what a job is worth (what you know you should be charging for it) and what you know you have to bid it at to get it (people are not going to pay what its worth combined with some fool coming by and bidding the job at 1/3 or 1/4 of what it should be bid at.

 

[treevet]

I hear you on all the above TV. After my latest bout of treeworkin, think I need to send myself off to bidding school or something. Loading logs under the tractor headlights (before snowstorm hit) for chump change at 8:00 at night, 45 mins from home, sort of secured that notion. At least I try to charge enough...sometimes I wonder if I'm retarded or something though.

I've still got two massive trees to prune and cable too. One aint too bad at $1800, the other I just sort of threw $1800 at it as well, the latter of the two I know I'm gonna lose my :censored: on after looking at it more while losing my :censored: on the above mentioned takedown.

The things the threat of winter and having payments will do to a tree guy. Lol.

How do you lose your shirt on any pruning and cabling job at $1800 ea MDS?

I think the cabling has you intimidated (read on another thread). Get the ANSI standard, a good gas Tanaka drill and have at it. People like Jocomo over complicate cabling...it ain't that big of a deal. I have probably put in over 3k cables over the years. They are all doing fine as far as I know.

 

[Blakesmaster]

Don't get me wrong Blakes, the phone ain't ringin off the hook here like it usually would with a blow like that.

I guess that makes feel a little better, but you could have just told me to stop my #####ing, lol. Be safe out there.

 

[treevet]

I guess that makes feel a little better, but you could have just told me to stop my #####ing, lol. Be safe out there.

I can become a member of the "Whiner" family with the best of em lol.

 

[tree MDS]

How do you lose your shirt on any pruning and cabling job at $1800 ea MDS?

I think the cabling has you intimidated (read on another thread). Get the ANSI standard, a good gas Tanaka drill and have at it. People like Jocomo over complicate cabling...it ain't that big of a deal. I have probably put in over 3k cables over the years. They are all doing fine as far as I know.

Its more the second tree that I mentioned thats bothering me TV, its one of the biggest beach trees I've ever seen, the things more like ten trees. Oh, and the tips are dying and it has a huge spread and large deadwood over targets. If I dont get it done in a day its not good sinse its 45 mins away and I want the high priced help on this one. The days are short and I hate the cold too. Lol.

I know how to cable pretty good though, just not a huge fan. I've got the stihl gas drill with two different bits, as well as the 5/8"x 4' timber bit from sherrill (for thru rods).

 

[treevet]

Its more the second tree that I mentioned thats bothering me TV, its one of the biggest beach trees I've ever seen, the things more like ten trees. Oh, and the tips are dying and it has a huge spread and large deadwood over targets. If I dont get it done in a day its not good sinse its 45 mins away and I want the high priced help on this one. The days are short and I hate the cold too. Lol.

I know how to cable pretty good though, just not a huge fan. I've got the stihl gas drill with two different bits, as well as the 5/8"x 4' timber bit from sherrill (for thru rods).

sounds like you have found the right thread.(JK)opcorn:

 

[tree MDS]

sounds like you have found the right thread.(JK)opcorn:

Lol. I hear ya though, I was just saying yesterday that I dont think I'm tough enough for this winter scene. Gonna be out there regardless by the looks of it. Damn payments.

 

[treevet]

its one of the biggest beach trees I've ever seen

Get out and do the work and you will BECOME tough enough to do it MDS.

If not maybe these are the "beach" trees you should be working on lol....

 

[tree MDS]

Get out and do the work and you will BECOME tough enough to do it MDS.

If not maybe these are the "beach" trees you should be working on lol....

Good one TV, dont know why I screwed that up here, I knew that. At least I got it right on the proposal: "American Beech". You made me check though, lol.

 

[treevet]

How bout some picts. MDS. It is tough ....you get up there and esp on beech it is hard to tell what tips are dead, you wonder if the ho will try to send you back up there and what do you really gain by picking little dead tips out anyway?

Cables and big dead over targets is a definite positive tho. Do you have to lower it all down or can you take some shots and hope they don't ricochet?

 

[ropensaddle]

Blues despair and agony on thee lol. I don't feel so bad now that I know your struggling too. Not that I am happy you are mind you, it's just that I am barely avoiding bankruptcy and though it seems eminent. I cling to faith in my abilities and my higher power to help me sort out my debts but may need to just call it

 

[tree MDS]

Blues despair and agony on thee lol. I don't feel so bad now that I know your struggling too. Not that I am happy you are mind you, it's just that I am barely avoiding bankruptcy and though it seems eminent I cling to faith in my abilities and my higher power to help me sort out my own but may need to just call it

Rope, you aint never gonna quit..maybe you just need to lose the higher power (or use the avatar instead).

TV: I'll get back about this tree tomorrow. you are right, I should take some pics, its a good one.

 

[ropensaddle]

Rope, you aint never gonna quit..maybe you just need to lose the higher power (or use the avatar instead).

TV: I'll get back about this tree tomorrow. you are right, I should take some pics, its a good one.

No doubt I would have more money if I left him behind. If I had nothing to morally ground me I could see easy money but it would be dishonest. I know that money made that way will not last and more important will not make me happy. Sorta like saving the ship by cutting it's sails and leaving you stranded in the deep Pacific.

 

[ropensaddle]

Rope, you aint never gonna quit..maybe you just need to lose the higher power (or use the avatar instead).

TV: I'll get back about this tree tomorrow. you are right, I should take some pics, its a good one.

give ya a nova since you don't have a higher power. felt sorry fer ya.