this is a nasty snag

[forestryworks]

makes me glad i passed a few up on the last snagfalling job.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ef6_1198748755

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[2dogs]

A mankiller for sure! I am not sure which way the faller intended the tree to go. I could not tell where the face cut was or was he finishing that in the vid? Some times it would be nice to have a chainsaw on the end of a 200' boom.

 

[forestryworks]

looks to me like he was sending it to where the smaller tree went.

but i could be wrong

 

[wvlogger]

WOW:jawdrop::jawdrop: i have never seen one that bad

 

[tree md]

That's ugly!

 

[spankrz]

"oops"

 

[ropensaddle]

Two things stuck out one sharpen that saw and two wedge in the wrong spot or should have had multiple wedges driven in. But where he had the wedge it was shifting the weight toward the lean if I only had one wedge it would have been placed a foot to the left of where he had his! May have had the same result but it would have been raising the best location imo.

 

[2dogs]

Looks like cedar. I don't know anything about Canadian trees except I would drink a Molson or 6 after that happened,

 

[arbadacarba]

Im still tring to figure this one out. It looks like a lightning killed fir to me (the big pile of debris at the base) but for the life of me I can't figure out what this guy was trying to do. The splits should have been apparent to him in a tree that came apart that easily, but it sure doesn't look like he tried to work around them. Small humbolts at the bases of the splits ( veery small, and veery carefullly!) should have allowed the whole front to cave and be pushed by the breakaway piece from the back. you never know until you see the tree closeup and from top to bottom, but it looks like he just left more danger than he started with. Oh well, nothing that a little snapcord can't fix. Wouldn't go near it with anything else.

 

[RandyMac]

That was frackin' tasty. I used to go out of my way to fall snags, the nastier the better.

 

[Jacob J.]

Two things stuck out one sharpen that saw and two wedge in the wrong spot or should have had multiple wedges driven in. But where he had the wedge it was shifting the weight toward the lean if I only had one wedge it would have been placed a foot to the left of where he had his! May have had the same result but it would have been raising the best location imo.

His saw was plenty sharp and there's no good place to wedge those big, rotten cedars. In fact, sometimes you do more harm than good trying to wedge those because sometimes you drive 'stags' off the stump with your wedging.

Im still tring to figure this one out. It looks like a lightning killed fir to me (the big pile of debris at the base) but for the life of me I can't figure out what this guy was trying to do. The splits should have been apparent to him in a tree that came apart that easily, but it sure doesn't look like he tried to work around them. Small humbolts at the bases of the splits ( veery small, and veery carefullly!) should have allowed the whole front to cave and be pushed by the breakaway piece from the back. you never know until you see the tree closeup and from top to bottom, but it looks like he just left more danger than he started with. Oh well, nothing that a little snapcord can't fix. Wouldn't go near it with anything else.

It was a big 'candelabra' cedar, many of which are found on Vancouver island. There's no real easy way to fall those.

 

[2dogs]

His saw was plenty sharp and there's no good place to wedge those big, rotten cedars. In fact, sometimes you do more harm than good trying to wedge those because sometimes you drive 'stags' off the stump with your wedging.



It was a big 'candelabra' cedar, many of which are found on Vancouver island. There's no real easy way to fall those.

With the last big redwood snag I dropped the wedges caused pieces of the stump to break off or be driven down into the ground while the trunk never moved. It was a balancing act to cut a little and pound a little till the trunk began to commit. I have never had anything like what happened in the video happen to me. I don't think I would be sitting here if it did.

 

[Jacob J.]

With the last big redwood snag I dropped the wedges caused pieces of the stump to break off or be driven down into the ground while the trunk never moved. It was a balancing act to cut a little and pound a little till the trunk began to commit. I have never had anything like what happened in the video happen to me. I don't think I would be sitting here if it did.

The big old Western Red cedars here will do that, especially more towards the coast where they stay wet most of the time. Sometimes you can find solid wood to wedge on further in, you just notch a block out of the back and find a solid ledge.

 

[arbadacarba]

I went and looked at part one and you are right about it being a cedar with a load of peck that worked its way through to the surface. What bugs me is this guy is DEFINITELY going to become a statistic if he keeps this up. Part one is far worse than part two because he could have been taken out anywhere within about a sixty foot radius. Part 2 never should have happened! I've done a lot of snags including one summer doing nothing but.Once the base starts to blow apart I'm out of there for sawing ( however I will definitely stick around until the thing is down). A little light explosives work and part 2 didn't even need to happen.

 

[John Ellison]

It looks just like S.E. Ak. I think its WRC too. Full of shake. Lots of the growth rings have seperated. The end of Pt. 1 shows a section set down on his bar. The wedge was just to get his saw free because there is no wedging on a snag like that. They can be a real pain.
He will probably drive over whats left of it.

 

[ropensaddle]

The big old Western Red cedars here will do that, especially more towards the coast where they stay wet most of the time. Sometimes you can find solid wood to wedge on further in, you just notch a block out of the back and find a solid ledge.

Which is why I said a foot left it looked more solid and was on the side that needed lift. Where he had it was in a bad spot without doubt right in the split. Now if that saw is what you call sharp I don't want to pick up any of your saws.

 

[Jacob J.]

Which is why I said a foot left it looked more solid and was on the side that needed lift. Where he had it was in a bad spot without doubt right in the split. Now if that saw is what you call sharp I don't want to pick up any of your saws.

Cutting a punky cedar will make the sharpest saw seem dull. When they're that rotten, you're not severing wood fibers, but merely just dragging them out of the kerf.

 

[Burvol]

Cutting a punky cedar will make the sharpest saw seem dull. When they're that rotten, you're not severing wood fibers, but merely just dragging them out of the kerf.

Yep, and they sound like a drum. It looks to me that he did not face the snag quite far enough. I prefer to put a face in a leaner of such nature that is just short of sitting on your bar, (on those big punky dead suckers) then back it up, keeping your side sawed up with the far corner as best as you can to prevent any swing. It's hard to tell what it was all doing, but he survived, and that's whats important.

 

[Jacob J.]

Yep, and they sound like a drum. It looks to me that he did not face the snag quite far enough. I prefer to put a face in a leaner of such nature that is just short of sitting on your bar, (on those big punky dead suckers) then back it up, keeping your side sawed up with the far corner as best as you can to prevent any swing. It's hard to tell what it was all doing, but he survived, and that's whats important.

That's how I like it too, face it in at least 50% if you can, or a little more. Often times the top is already out so you have to create a pendulum with the body weight of the snag. There's no leverage created by a crown in those usually.

It's sort of like a guy my weight trying to tackle Andre the Giant. Even with a running a start, my weight isn't leverage enough to knock him over.

 

[Burvol]

That's how I like it too, face it in at least 50% if you can, or a little more. Often times the top is already out so you have to create a pendulum with the body weight of the snag. There's no leverage created by a crown in those usually.

It's sort of like a guy my weight trying to tackle Andre the Giant. Even with a running a start, my weight isn't leverage enough to knock him over.

Stuff like that is fun to blow up on your strip with a Bushel or two Dougy.