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anyone else ever seen or done this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b_o-fYbgTk

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To answer your question, no. But hell yeah, thats quality. And I'll be looking for the right time to try it.
 
Forestryworks,

The quote you use in your sig is total BS. Seems like you're trying to establish credibility by bashing environmentalists. If that's what floats your boat, man. The argument in the quote is a lot of hogwash.

"Environmentalists can no longer escape the fact that their policies of inaction have ended up denuding many forests by increasing the risk and severity of forest fires." - Prof. Robert H. Nelson

A. It's USFS' policy of ACTION not inaction that is at fault. Specifically, it's their policy of suppression of all fires that is to blame for the increased risk and severity of wildfires. they should be lighting more fires and letting more fires burn rather than suppressing everything.

B. The USFS created the policy after a number of catastrophic wildfires in the late 1800s and the early 1900s. This was done not to mollify "environmentalists" but to protect the interests of the logging, mining and ranching companies. The policy was entrenched long before the environmentalists had any kind of foothold.

C. The USFS is not nor has it ever been an "environmental" organization. They are a tool (I mean that in the worse sense) of the aforementioned industries. They are a bureaucracy that feeds off of the cycle of suppression leading to more and worse fires leading to more suppression.

D. The whole Smokey the Bear thing came up during WWII when the Japanese were sending over incendiary balloons to burn our forests so that we'd have to use manpower to fight forest fires thereby diluting the war effort.

E. Robert H. Nelson is nothing more than an industry shill. He wants to do away with the USFS not because they've made bad decisions but because they get in the way of big business. (they get in the way of a lot of other stuff too but that's another topic) This is evidenced by the fact that Nelson promotes only logging as a way of thinning forests to the exclusion of prescribed fire and WFU (wildland fire use for resource benefit). A clear cut denudes the forest as surely as a wildfire. Some would argue that a clearcut does more damage than a fire.

F. Guess who since the 1920s has been promoting prescribed fire, WFU and responsible logging as a means of fuel reduction? "Environmentalists"!

Just like there are good and bad loggers there are good and bad environmentalists. I consider myself both a good logger and a good environmentalist. The two are not mutually exclusive.

I grew up in Wisconsin, a part of the country that was logged to the greatest extent possible by robber barons. It was their irresponsible, greedy behavior that contributed to the denuding of the forests of MI, WI and MN. It was their slash that caused the Peshtigo fire in 1871, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peshtigo_Fire. Forests in the lake states are now nothing more than pulp farms. Do you really think that the industry would behave any better if it wasn't for the states and USFS making them toe the line?

What part of Montana are you in? Listen, I have no love lost for the FS... But attacking a good member of this site, isn't what I'd call a "smart way to introduce yourself." His quote is pointing to nutty, hug a tree, save a bunny, type "environmentalists"... The all bad kind.

I'm not going to judge you by your first post... But you sound like the kind of out of state transplant, that we just don't need here.
 
Wow just curious but under what circumstance is this side stepping necessary ???

that's what i'm waiting to hear about...

i'm sure the "can do" part of it is based on the lay for the tree you're falling.

but i'm still the :newbie:
 
Only thing i dont under stand is how would it slide unless you cut your hinge off? I think thers gotta be somthin im missing.
 
that's what i'm waiting to hear about...

i'm sure the "can do" part of it is based on the lay for the tree you're falling.

but i'm still the :newbie:

He wanted the tree to slide downhill, but stay in lead... He was trying to miss two big stumps. It actually seemed to work very well.
 
Only thing i dont under stand is how would it slide unless you cut your hinge off? I think thers gotta be somthin im missing.

If you watch the video again, the tree started to commit, and then the hinge broke... Likely why he used a fairly shallow face.

EDIT: I just watched it again... And it looks like he stayed with it and cut a bunch of hinge too.
 
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If you watch the video again, the tree started to commit, and then the hinge broke... Likely why he used a fairly shallow face.

Oh Holly sap I never even noticed the face being so shallow. makes sense now. It is kinda cool watchin that tree slide like that. I dono if ill ever get the opportunity to try that though. I dont think the hard woods that we cut around here would allow such a maneuver.
 
side runnin.

forestryworks,looks like you got a thread goin on within in a thread?any way, I have actually done this on accident trying to swing trees,kind of a tickle and run deal.I never got a chance to do it on purpose,and I never saw the tree hit the ground.it was side runnin not steppin!
 
forestryworks,looks like you got a thread goin on within in a thread?any way, I have actually done this on accident trying to swing trees,kind of a tickle and run deal.I never got a chance to do it on purpose,and I never saw the tree hit the ground.it was side runnin not steppin!

lol, side runnin... hotfootin' it, eh?
 
Thank you moderators for Banning that AVIDCUTTER guy.

That looks like an interesting technique for slide stumping. Might have to try that on some trees up by Canada on a Dangerous tree removal job. Problem is, instead of dodging stumps, I have to dodge a barn that is a the edge of the slope that the 2 trees are on.
Timber cutters do what they have to when cutting timber even if it means cutting an ugly stump so the tree will fall into the lay.
 
Oh Holly sap I never even noticed the face being so shallow. makes sense now. It is kinda cool watchin that tree slide like that. I dono if ill ever get the opportunity to try that though. I dont think the hard woods that we cut around here would allow such a maneuver.

this works great for bigger trees just above your skid trail. insted of wrestling the butt down the hill with a grapple or bucking unneccecarily to hook chokers. falling poplars down hill usually send them loushing down the mountain and pulling down hill against trees sucks.
 
Thank you moderators for Banning that AVIDCUTTER guy.

That looks like an interesting technique for slide stumping. Might have to try that on some trees up by Canada on a Dangerous tree removal job. Problem is, instead of dodging stumps, I have to dodge a barn that is a the edge of the slope that the 2 trees are on.
Timber cutters do what they have to when cutting timber even if it means cutting an ugly stump so the tree will fall into the lay.



Couldn't make a word out until the end. :dizzy:

On these ugly stumps, anyone ever made an extra clean up cut :chainsaw: & gave it a toss, to avoid the fallout?

:greenchainsaw:
 
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