Tinkering on a 271 Olympik

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Steve NW WI

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Went to fire up the old 271 today, make sure it's ready for an appearance at the GTG next weekend. Anyway, the beast wouldn't start, so tonight I dragged it into the basement. Found it to have good spark, was getting gas, compression seems ok for as old as it is. (I will be picking up a gauge tomorrow, along with a set of ball allens for home, they're all I use at work, but for some reason the straights have always been good enough at home.)

Anyway, I got to tearing stuff apart (just gotta be done, don't it...). Tons of scraping gunk (as you'll see in the pics), and added a little air compressor to my shopping list. Something small and cute that can hide under the bench in my unfinished basement-any suggestions?

Keep in mind that I'm about 20 years removed from the last time I tore into a 2-stroke here, and memory ain't perfect, so terminology here may be a little rough. When I got the recoil off, I noticed one of the flywheel weights (centrifugal advance?) was stuck open. I decided that wasn't a good thing, and after playing a bit, found that the clip holding it on would bind in one spot and hold it open. One little tweak and that's fixed, but would it have caused hard/non starting?

Next item up for bids was pulling the muffler (see what you guys have done to me :dizzy:). Broke the spotweld nuts that hold the exhaust deflector to the muffler, but can cure that monday at work, or sooner with the wire feed if I get itchy.

Here come the obligatory pics...scoring on the back wall of the cylinder looks ugly in the pic, but nothing I could feel with a pick. Mostly everything looks shiny and real good for the hours this old saw has on it. Also - I thought most small motors this size got by with a single ring?

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Of course the muffler itself fell under my scrutiny. Looking in from the port side, into an internal baffle with 13 holes about 5/16" diameter - works out to .935 sq in of holes vs the port size of .720 sq in - should be ok there, even accounting for the directional changes this is forcing.

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Just a big can looked at from the outlet side:

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Here is the backup in the system. The deflector measures out to a meager .225 sq in opening not deducting for the dent in it.- COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE!
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My plan here is to snip along the edges, and bend it out to about a .650 open height, which should give an outlet area of .605 sq in, about 84% of port size, and weld some filler into the gaps. This oughta help a lot, and not even be noticable once the heat shield goes back on over the whole shebang.

Well, back to the dungeon for some more cleaning! Dishwasher might get a workout tonight too - heck only a single guy is tearing saws apart on Friday night! Only problem is I'd have to unload the dishes that are in there...

Questions? Comments? Tips? I'll be checking back in later.

Thanks,

Steve
 
Looking good so far! My 252 Olympic had scoring like that and still had 150 compression when I sold it. Keep scrubbin and keep tinkerin and I'm sure she will purr again.
 
Thanks Biker Dude - look forward to seeing you next Sat.!

Next question I have is how much side play in the crank is considered acceptable/normal? I have about .035 side to side in this one. Time for new bearings? Or can these be tightened/adjusted like wheel bearings?

This thing also runs an 8 pin sprocket - I assume this is to get more chain speed on an older, lower rpm motor?

On a side note, I haven't been able to find specs on this one, so I measured bore and stroke on it. 1.91" bore and 1.38" stroke, give or take a tiny bit of caveman measurement error, comes out to 3.95 ci, 65cc's.

I'm off to cut big pieces of wood into little ones, sounds like tomorrow's weather will be perfect for putting this thing back together indoors...
 
Cool. I have a 271 Oly and I thought I might be the only one. This is almost like life being discovered on another planet. :cheers:

Mine runs pretty good. It does seem like it vibrates quite a bit, which I suppose is why they came out with the 272.

I'll follow this thread and keep up with the mods you are doing.
 
Steve

You should be able to get it going again.

Would you post a pics of the flywheel and piston? I'd like to take a look see.

edit: How about a pic of the flywheel then? I'm wondering about the stuck item you're talking about.

Thanks

Dan
 
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Dan - I haven't pulled the jug off, and probably won't unless compression checks low. Trying not to jump straight into full overhaul yet - but gimme time - CFD (chainsaw fixin disorder) seems to have reared its head here!

Spike, it does shake fillings out, with the handles bolted straight to the case, but Dad bought it new waaay back when I was a youngun, so it will probably never leave me. It's worn out a bunch of bars and chains in it's day. For a long time we ran a Super 251 and the 271, 16" and 20" on the 251 and 20" and 24" on the 271.

Steve
 
Update - went and got a compression tester this AM, have about 135 PSI cold, not perfect, but I don't think it's bad enough to need rebuild yet.

I'm taking the muffler with to work tonight, will get some pics up in the morning of the "after" version of it, and hope to put it all together and have it running by Wed.
 
I'm off work tonight, so getting things back together. Rechecked compression with recoil bolted on securely, 155PSI. Good spark, but still no fire.

My initial diagnosis that it was getting fuel seems to be wrong, or at least it's not getting enough fuel.

Time to tear back down (after I check the fuel filter first!) and see what makes a Tillotson carb tick. Might be due for a kit, hope I can find one if needed before Sat.

Muffler mod is mostly done, waiting on JB weld to dry on the broken weld nut, very experienced welder at work couldn't make it stick with the TIG last night for some reason, so back to hillbilly repair 101.

I'll post some more pics later this evening.
 
The old girl is back together and running. "carb" problem turned out to be a blocked fuel vent line.

My muffler mod turned into a little more frustration than I wanted with the nut problem, but it too is back together. Hopefully Thursday or Friday I'll get a little playtime to see what effect it had.

Here's a couple pics, first is the muffler after opening up:
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Front view on the saw with the heat shield on. Whaddya mean it's not stock: :hmm3grin2orange:
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And a pic with it's freshly back from the shop little brother, Echo 280-E:
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It does have a real growl to it now. The oiler also works well. Any tips on getting bar oil off the basement floor?
 
Dawn dish washing soap cleans up bar oil nicely. Isn't it fun resurrecting old saws? I like it almost as much as resurrecting old motorcycles!
 
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