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[OldDeadOne]

Wow come back to check on this thread and it's 90+ pages and I am getting a kick out of the welding discussion(I have a Miller 140 mig welder....). I haven't used it much lately but glad to see discussions on this and all the other stuff so far

 

[WesternSaw]

OldDeadOne

Glad you checked in again!I think a lot of members don't even know the thread exists.Sooooo,if you like, spread the word around and we can get some more action on here.Glad you like it!
Lawrence

 

[Brmorgan]

Here's one for you guys. Picked this little doodad up at a yard sale a couple years back. No idea what it is, I think I paid a quarter for it just cause it looked neat and possibly useful someday.

It's about 4" long overall and has a 1/8" diameter hole thru the length of the shaft/handle, a ~3/32" hole thru the stud that the tightening wingnut is threaded onto, and a very slight "V" in one side of the jaws, maybe 1/32" deep.. My guess is that it's used to hold some sort of awl/needle/pick sort of thing? There are no visible markings of any sort on it. Looks to be fairly old though, just going by the way the stud and wingnut are made if nothing else.

 

[promac850]

Here are two pics showing my draft drawing of the welding cart I plan to build.

I made provisions for a shielding gas tank, 33+ pound spools, and all casters will swivel. (hate trying to wiggle stuff around to make it go into a tight spot...)

The casters are from some heavy duty shelves, made by Gorilla. Thing is we don't want the casters on the shelves, so I plan to use them. Supposed 500 pound capacity for a set of four. If things warrant, I will use all eight casters that we have from the two shelves.

I will use 1" square tubing for all of the outside perimeter frame pieces, and the tank holding base, as well as the supports for the tank base. I also will have supports that run diagonal (forgot to draw them in... did so with computer editing...) to support the main frame. (1" tube is blue)

The shelves will be held up with 1/2" square tube... Now that I think, the bottom of the tank base will be made out of 1/2" square tube welded onto the bottom of the main rails. They will be spaced to allow dust and crap to fall through, rather than building up on the cart. (1/2" tube is red)

The shelves will likely be diamond tread aluminum, as I have a pretty big sheet of that stuff, supported by cross braces on the 1/2" tube main rails. The upper one will likely be 1" for extra strength.

Hmm... I might need more steel. Will have to update the quantities.

The handle brackets will be 1" sq. tube, and the handle itself will be 1/2" sq. tube. I will cut and grind the handle to the right size, just barely an interference fit, and weld some scrap plate and tap said plate for some good bolts. What will be done is a small piece of tube with a rubber pad will be put in the middle of the handle to hold the tank nice and snug. I don't have any confidence in chains, especially if it's halfway or more to the bottom of the tank... (wtf? what good will that do?)

If I ever get a tank, it'll be big. So changes should not be that often. Even if they were, I'll have the compressor set up and and air ratchet will make bolt removal and installation real quick...

I think it'll be plenty strong enough, but if any of you see something that should be amended, feel free to holler.

I plan it to last for years, and years. Also the casters will be slightly recessed. Lower center of gravity is good, right?

The gun holder and such will be added after I get the cart together and figure out where I want it. Once that's done, I plan to paint it. Probably blue or black, maybe duo tone, I dunno.

Sorry about the crappy line overlay... laptop touch pad and drawing ain't a hand-in-hand thing, if you know what I mean.

 

[2yb3]

damn that looks pretty good like to see what it looks like when finished promac. I still have yet to figure out how I am gonna build the flatdeck for my 77 f150, since the box has seen better days, and the previous previous owner decided he would cut the supports for the bottom of the box, its now like walking on rubber,

 

[blackoak]

Here's one for you guys. Picked this little doodad up at a yard sale a couple years back. No idea what it is, I think I paid a quarter for it just cause it looked neat and possibly useful someday.

It's about 4" long overall and has a 1/8" diameter hole thru the length of the shaft/handle, a ~3/32" hole thru the stud that the tightening wingnut is threaded onto, and a very slight "V" in one side of the jaws, maybe 1/32" deep.. My guess is that it's used to hold some sort of awl/needle/pick sort of thing? There are no visible markings of any sort on it. Looks to be fairly old though, just going by the way the stud and wingnut are made if nothing else.

I think that is used in the jewelry business to hold rings or small pieces while the smith works on it. I have one similar except mine has a small wood handle. I think they are called a jewelers vice.

 

[promac850]

damn that looks pretty good like to see what it looks like when finished promac. I still have yet to figure out how I am gonna build the flatdeck for my 77 f150, since the box has seen better days, and the previous previous owner decided he would cut the supports for the bottom of the box, its now like walking on rubber,

I know I would use something like 2" or maybe bigger square tube for the main frame of the said box, and for the supports that need to hold the floor up.

If you run side rails that are about 3-4" above the deck level, probably 1 1/2" or 1" sq. tube probably would work good. Any more, I would probably run 2", just for a little more strength.

Tailgate would be simple, get some big beefy hinges that can be greased, like these:Buyers Weld-On Bullet Hinge — 6in. (150mm) x 25mm; 13mm Dia. Pin, Model# FBP150GF | Hinges + Fasteners | Northern Tool + Equipment

These are sturdy hinges, and are weldable. Some latches like these would work to hold said gate shut:Buyers Side Security Latch | Hinges + Fasteners | Northern Tool + Equipment

2" tube would likely be a good idea for the tailgate.

Overbuilt may be heavier, but at least it will be stronger than you need, which IMO is always good.

Here are some pics of beds various people made, from Google...

Aluminum= really expensive... but it does look really good.

A headache rack can also be added to keep that back window from getting smashed from an errant piece of firewood. I would use expanded steel mesh, and use maybe 1/2" square tube to support the mesh every foot or so.

I found looking at what someone else made, I could draw up what I wanted.

 

[WesternSaw]

Promac

Looks like a lot of thinking and preparation going into your welding cart,that's always a smart thing before tackling a project.Those are some good looking pics of flat decks you posted.
Lawrence

 

[WesternSaw]

Old Tool from Brad M.

Hey Brad I have no idea what that thing is,maybe blackoak is on the right track.Brad I'm sure you will find a good use for it.
Good to see you back here blackoak!
Lawrence

 

[heimannm]

Note exactly a tool item, but here it is anyway. My SIL had a couple of old drawing files and didn't have a place/need for them any more. I thought they would make great gasket storage so I put them in the attic space over my work shop.

Lots of room to spread gaskets out to make them easy to find, plus a great way to store gasket material as well instead of keeping it rolled up tight.

I also collect old McCulloch advertising and this is a great place to store the ones too large to fit in a three ring binder.

Mark

 

[WesternSaw]

Storage-Mark H

Mark that's a great idea you had.I would think that cabinet would be good for all sorts of tool related stuff.Oh, and the cabinet fits right into this thread if you ask me.
Lawrence

 

[Warped5]

Mark that's a great idea you had.I would think that cabinet would be good for all sorts of tool related stuff.Oh, and the cabinet fits right into this thread if you ask me.
Lawrence

 

[2yb3]

I know I would use something like 2" or maybe bigger square tube for the main frame of the said box, and for the supports that need to hold the floor up.

If you run side rails that are about 3-4" above the deck level, probably 1 1/2" or 1" sq. tube probably would work good. Any more, I would probably run 2", just for a little more strength.

Tailgate would be simple, get some big beefy hinges that can be greased, like these:Buyers Weld-On Bullet Hinge — 6in. (150mm) x 25mm; 13mm Dia. Pin, Model# FBP150GF | Hinges + Fasteners | Northern Tool + Equipment

These are sturdy hinges, and are weldable. Some latches like these would work to hold said gate shut:Buyers Side Security Latch | Hinges + Fasteners | Northern Tool + Equipment

2" tube would likely be a good idea for the tailgate.

Overbuilt may be heavier, but at least it will be stronger than you need, which IMO is always good.

Here are some pics of beds various people made, from Google...

Aluminum= really expensive... but it does look really good.

A headache rack can also be added to keep that back window from getting smashed from an errant piece of firewood. I would use expanded steel mesh, and use maybe 1/2" square tube to support the mesh every foot or so.

I found looking at what someone else made, I could draw up what I wanted.

I like that 2nd pic alot thats the sort of idea I had, wasnt even thinking of having sides or a tailgate. i took out the ford yesterday was my bday so having fun around the farm, mudding around the beaverponds and in the fields, drove to the other end of farm noticed she was getting hot, stopped and noticed rad leaking a bit, drove straight to the shop and right infront on the shop she blew, since theres that a few ohter things to fix I'm take the box off this weekend hopefully, and get on that acklands and practice some welds lol one of the guys in our 4x4 group runs a powder coating buisness so I might just try and get it powder coated, tho will need him for sand/media blasting. hmm headache rack, theres a nice semi headache rack behind the shop that a person could redneck up lol

 

[promac850]

I like that 2nd pic alot thats the sort of idea I had, wasnt even thinking of having sides or a tailgate. i took out the ford yesterday was my bday so having fun around the farm, mudding around the beaverponds and in the fields, drove to the other end of farm noticed she was getting hot, stopped and noticed rad leaking a bit, drove straight to the shop and right infront on the shop she blew, since theres that a few ohter things to fix I'm take the box off this weekend hopefully, and get on that acklands and practice some welds lol one of the guys in our 4x4 group runs a powder coating buisness so I might just try and get it powder coated, tho will need him for sand/media blasting. hmm headache rack, theres a nice semi headache rack behind the shop that a person could redneck up lol

Sounds like stuff is lining up for your Ford project...

Powdercoat is even better than paint, if it's applied properly. I've heard of it peeling because of poor surface prep. It'd have to be very thoroughly sandblasted and cleaned up.

Otherwise, just paint it.

 

[joe25DA]

Todays Score

I ffound an old timer on CL who had a SAWZALL for sale for fairly cheap. Turns out he had a bunch of stuff. I got the sawzall, Thor 1/2" drill, Craftsman Machinist tool box, a 4" vise and drillpress vise (will post tomm) and a bunch of nice hand tools. Some names on the wrenches are:
Thorsen
Tomahawk
KNU-VISE
Wicard
Barcaloy
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[Eccentric]

Fantastic scores Joe! My dad got one of those brown Kennedy/Craftsman toolboxes as a Christmas gift from my mom back in the '70s. He still has it, and it's still in fantastic shape.

I like the older metal Sawzall case with the blade chart. Very nice. My Super Sawzall came to me in the usual plastic case. Traded an FE Ford Edelbrock Performer intake manifold for it....

What's the large "Tractor Man" IHC emblem next to the Sierra Classic emblem off of? Did you get that with the tools?

 

[joe25DA]

Thanks aaron! I have a new super sawzall that has the plastic case. I think this one is from the 80s. I have my grandfathers Kennedy toolbox, nice units for sure. I got the IH logo off a tractor I scrapped. Kept a few other parts too. I found the sierra logo.

 

[Johny Utah]

Rxe,You know I think that punch set is available here in Canada at Lee Valley Tools.I'm going to check it out and see.I will post a link and if you don't mind you can tell me if it's the same.I'm sure Jerry would like to know.
Lawrence
Lee Valley Tools

when you get to the catolog type in punch set in the search box

Having looked at it more closely i do not think it is the same but maybe it is from the same company.i will try and find out

Pretty pricey, $159. You can buy a lot of factory gaskets for that kind of money.

 

[WesternSaw]

Johny Utah

Pretty pricey, $159. You can buy a lot of factory gaskets for that kind of money.

That's true!
Lawrence

 

[2yb3]

@joe25DA thats a nice haul there, nice logos as well