topping trees good?

[D]

I wanted share this guys site with you. http://www.cuttree4u.com/ I think it should be cuttree4uwrongway.com He tops trees and then it says on the facts page that spikes dont hurt tree if you have the right guy using them. Please dont email this guy with hate mail. I am just posting an ignorance page. Scary this guy is out there preaching this isnt it?
Darin

 

[treeclimber165]

"Spikes do not hurt your tree if you have the right kind and someone who knows how to use them. Whoever invented bucket trucks probably started the rumor that spikes hurt your trees so they could eliminate the little man because they (the tree services that bought the trucks) had to make a killing in order to pay for the equipment.
Now that you are enlightened about tree services, I hope you make the enlightened choice."
Who is this moron? I worked in an office with 2 bucket trucks, and we used them wisely. We made a lot of money using them, but we did it by improving our PRODUCTIVITY, not by "shortchanging the customer". Also, EVERY crew foreman was VERY adept at climbing without spikes! My buddy George did many removals without spikes, because he was more comfortable climbing without them! EVERY new climber STARTED climbing without spikes, and only got spikes AFTER becoming skilled at climbing without them. This idiot should be reported to every arborist association and municipality within his working area.
I'm sorry for ranting, but idiots like this piss me off. They give REAL tree trimmers a bad name.

 

[Dave]

You might be a redneck if ........

 

[Deere John]

The line I liked (#5) was how I was a drunk, and did not realize it, and worse, I kept it from my customers. Shame on me. Maybe this was what was behind my pleasant smile and smooooooth sales pitch that got me the work in the first place.

Give-eth me-eth a break-eth, oh-eth holy-one-eth, I begg-eth.

 

[treeclimber165]

Since his page states that they "don't waste money on unnecessary expenses", I assume he means things like Lifelines, hardhats, earplugs, safety glasses and climbing gear. Which reminds me, maybe he might wanna look at that climbing belt for sale on e-bay. He could get a 'real deal' and pass the savings along to his customers!

 

[Deere John]

"Savings" - pine caskets are cheaper than oak!

 

[rbtree]

Here's a couple more doozies:

http://greenwoodtreeservice.homestead.com/index.html
These guys seem proud of their "hatracks". Don't seem to be much into PPE, among other things.

Then there is the guy who is trying to sell tree butchering franchises!!! http://www.topanddrop.ca.


See you guys found ole McPeak!! He's already been "harassed" via email by a bunch of us. Called me a stuffed shirt, he did!! Seems he isn't much for chippers, either!! Plus his rambling about firewood sales were a laugh.

Plenty more like them just about everywhere, unfortunately.

 

[Dave]

I think I'll start selling firewood by the piece, placed in the customer's stove, at a dollar a stick.

 

[Toddppm]

Never seen idiots so proud of their butchery. McPeaks already had an earful I'll run into him one day, he works in my area along with a few hundred of his cousins from Culpepper, his ad says he works in MD too. there they will fine you for wearing spikes and topping, they even locked up one guy for repeated violations that was pretty cool.

 

[Dave]

"The right kind of spikes"? Don Blair covered them in his excellent book- I think he called them Euc Man training spikes- regular climbers with the gaffs removed.

 

[D]

I liked the pics of his jobs. http://greenwoodtreeservice.homestead.com/Job.html He must not have any because they are just drawings. Worse yet it drawings of topping a tree. Thanks Rbtree. Those were good. Actually, I couldnt get the topanddrop to load. The other one did and it was good.
Darin

 

[UrbanEarth]

The guys over at the ISA Webboard already ran into this sight and went to town. Firstly, trying to educate him and then simply ranting about him and then finally, giving up on him. It is unbelievable how ignorant he chooses to be.

Alan

 

[D]

I thought we would keep this thread rolling. These arent much, but they are on the list of known toppers, now. http://rickrivettstree.micronpcweb.com/
http://campostree.getwebnet.com/
http://members.aol.com/sunsetree/
http://redwoodtree.getwebnet.com/
http://www.puckettstree.qpg.com/ Cant even spell topping right
http://www.arkansasweb.com/treeservice/
http://www.navas.net/Dutchman/
http://www.glomex.com/trees/
http://www.capecod.net/liberty/contact_form.html
http://www.buggs.net/~twix/indexstmpb.html
http://www.langleytoday.com/fvts/
http://www.hetman.baweb.com/hetman.htm
http://www.experttree.org/


Found a bad pic at http://www.amarillopages.com/atreeservice/

Keep the bad list rolling. The way arboristsite is growing maybe these guys will find thereselves on here an change their ways. If not we can get a good laugh at the morons out there.

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

I did a quick search on Tree Topping

http://search.dogpile.com/texis/search?q="tree+topping"&geo=no&fs=web

Suprisingly most sites were decrying it.

 

[treeclimber165]

Hey Darin,
After a cursury look at the web site of urban tree care, I scribbled off a note to ISA and NAA. Just got a reply from ISA, and it seems that if we actually click on the link about tree topping, this guy actively explains why topping should NOT be done. I feel lower than a snake's belly about now. I guess I should investigate a little further before jumping on someone in the future.

 

[D]

I feel bad too Brian, I thought I checked my searches better. I erased urbantreecare from the list I had above. Many of the others you cant click on the tree topping link, so I would assume they do it. If they dont they should remove that misleading link.

 

[Sudo Tsuga]

i like the cowboy hat the guy in the tree is wearing on amarillopages.com. now is that ANSI aproved ppe? or did bobby joe feel the sun was shinning too brite under all them leaves... oh wait...

 

[monkeypuzzle]

Cowboy looks like a used car salesman.

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

There are white hardhats that are ANSI rated.

The real bad one is his Amigo on the rope!

 

[Dave]

What's he gonna do when he pulls that chunk down on his sneakers?