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First one is a Doug Fir or maybe a pondarosa pine, more likely the Fir because of the pinkish? (color blind myself... could be orange or brown for all I know) color of the heart, bark is pretty similar between the two.

Second is cottonwood or otherwise known as black poplar.
 
First one is a Doug Fir or maybe a pondarosa pine, more likely the Fir because of the pinkish? (color blind myself... could be orange or brown for all I know) color of the heart, bark is pretty similar between the two.

Second is cottonwood or otherwise known as black poplar.
The first is definitly not pine. I can see the doug fir qualtys to it.
 
We cut about 25 loads of it in hagerstown MD about 4 years ago. All wasb pure white. Different kinds of hackberry maybe?
 
Good call guy. That wood resembles mulberry way more than hackberry.
 
could be, i meant are ya calling the same tree by two different names but you did answer that in a way. i guess i have never seen a hack berry then. i have never seen a tree that looks like the OPs neither.
 
Don't know about the first one. Doug Fir doesn't grow here in East Texas. However, Hackberry grows here abundantly and that second pic is definitely not Hackberry. It does look a lot like Mulberry, both the bark and the wood color. Mulberry is pale yellow when fresh cut but it will turn russet red with oxidation and UV light.
 
The few hackberry I have cut look exactly like that. It doesn't grow much around here. Grayish/white corky bark that gets rough with age. White to yellowish wood that can get some funky colors in wet areas. The even fewer mulberry I've cut have had dark green bark (almost like ash) with yellow sapwood and redish/purplish heartwood. I know there are two kinds of mulberry.
 

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