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Oil pump pickup could be clogged with chips and such in the tank. Otherwise, it's probably the drive gear. Both already stated by Northy. On older saws I've seen the rubber pickup line collapse like a tapeworm, usually after the pickup screen is at least partially clogged. This usually doesn't happen until that line's been there for a LONG time and has gotten soft. Once they're soft enough, they'll collapse even when the pickup is clear.
 
If you're "abusing" that many blades on the same powerhead, I can only imagine how poor of condition it is in now.

Saw bars take abuse, sometimes there's no way around it. With enough time(years) you will see what can and does happen to a bar. I certainly hope people don't do such things on purpose or cause it with out thinking. A bar in my mind is a consumable though, the power head is an asset. I will always abuse or sacrifice a bar before the head. Sometimes you're in it and you can't stop to get back up, you just clamp your teeth and do what needs to be done, knowing full well what's happening(damage) as you go. Needed to finish and get rid of the post I left, wedges may have held it but I wasn't able to take that risk in this situation.

owl, what kind of saw?

It's a newer 660.

Oil pump pickup could be clogged with chips and such in the tank. Otherwise, it's probably the drive gear. Both already stated by Northy. On older saws I've seen the rubber pickup line collapse like a tapeworm, usually after the pickup screen is at least partially clogged. This usually doesn't happen until that line's been there for a LONG time and has gotten soft. Once they're soft enough, they'll collapse even when the pickup is clear.

Everything looks good, I think it just gave up the ghost. I'll get another ordered, got a replacement installed and everything is working right as rain now. I was just hoping there was another maintenance check I could do, when I go over things to try and head this off from happening again.



Owl
 
when you say Tsumura checkered are you talking about the lighter versions, and not the solids? i've got about 10 years on one regular Total Super bar(tsumura) and 5 yearss on another 24". I blew the tip out of the 20" long time ago and have a spare on hand, Still going strong. Wish the tip was a tad longer/braoder but compared to everything else out there, they're rails are hard, hardly a burr like any oregon, windsor or the like. Never tried the lighter versions, or never had one over 24" though. They used to be quite the deal compared to everything else, now it seems they are priced in line with everything else.
 
Nate I've got a Sugi that I'd like to liquidate myself of as I'm tired of dicking around with the adaptor on my Husky. Soon as I can I'm gonna order a couple Tsumura's. Still haven't decided which lengths though. 28, 30, or 32, then maybe a 36 for the second one.
Sounds like you need a better adapter..
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I have one of those good adaptors. It's not loose on the adaptor it just seems I can't get the bar adjusted quite right. Has a brand new adjustors cover and that seems to function just fine with my windsor. I just want a light bar with the proper mounting and I wanna try the lightweight tsumura. I wanna say they are a tad lighter than the sugis. I'll get back to you later hell as I'm on my phone.
 
Saw bars take abuse, sometimes there's no way around it. With enough time(years) you will see what can and does happen to a bar. I certainly hope people don't do such things on purpose or cause it with out thinking. A bar in my mind is a consumable though, the power head is an asset. I will always abuse or sacrifice a bar before the head. Sometimes you're in it and you can't stop to get back up, you just clamp your teeth and do what needs to be done, knowing full well what's happening(damage) as you go. Needed to finish and get rid of the post I left, wedges may have held it but I wasn't able to take that risk in this situation.



It's a newer 660.



Everything looks good, I think it just gave up the ghost. I'll get another ordered, got a replacement installed and everything is working right as rain now. I was just hoping there was another maintenance check I could do, when I go over things to try and head this off from happening again.



Owl
owl, you replaced the whole pump? or just the plastic worm drive? reason i ask, the old 064 in the early years gave pump trouble because we used motor oil then.......it would gum up and strip the worm over and over. i took it all apart and it had a gummy glaze inside that was hell to clean. i did get it clean and then it worked just fine. worth a look, drive out the tiny roll pin and pull the adjustment screw, then the plunger will pull out.
 
Replaced the whole thing. I'll pull it apart some other time, just to see how this thing works. I had a replacement in the bag. Ran the tank, screens and lines all that's all clean no problems now. I fiddled with this thing a bit, I'll get it torn down to the bits and pieces in the next couple days when time allows.



Owl
 
I have one of those good adaptors. It's not loose on the adaptor it just seems I can't get the bar adjusted quite right. Has a brand new adjustors cover and that seems to function just fine with my windsor. I just want a light bar with the proper mounting and I wanna try the lightweight tsumura. I wanna say they are a tad lighter than the sugis. I'll get back to you later hell as I'm on my phone.
You can get a lightweight Sugihara 32" .63g 3/8 in a husky mount, I just picked one up.
 
I was only ever able to get em in 50th and still mount. Well its sold now nonetheless. I'll get me a tsumura and try that for a while lol
Was it my adapter or the baileys adapter. I have a baileys adapter and used it on my 32 stihl mount sugi and the adapter is thicker than the bar so the clutch cover will not tighten down or oil properly.
 
I think that carbon bar is just a concept for the carbon saw that wore it.

I've used the ES lights (36" and 28") and found them to be very durable and the rails hold up pretty good. My 36 needs a new nose now, flogged out a bit around the tip. It's got a lot of hours on it.

Here in France the Stihl carbon insert bar is available but you need to take out a mortgage to buy, I don't know of 1 in use as cost is the killer The Op is pleased with his Tsumura bars, we have used them in a commercial setup but we now use Sugihara, very little to choose performance wise, but in our case the Sugi's are sourced at a better to us price so as a living is being made with them it's a no brainer. Cannon's are not readily available so we have not used them although I have 1 fitted to a saw I own & it is a quality bit of kit.
 
Was it my adapter or the baileys adapter. I have a baileys adapter and used it on my 32 stihl mount sugi and the adapter is thicker than the bar so the clutch cover will not tighten down or oil properly.
Maybe mine needs a little shaved off but the main thing is I wanna go to 63ga.
 

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