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Anyone know the max tonnage a tty70 yarder will pull?Up an average slope with 1 1/8 skyline and 7/8 mains.I have always skidded wood and have seen yarders on youtube but never seen one working and am trying to get a few ideas about them.
 
Most yarders have the potential to pull themselves inside out and then some if anchored well at the back end. What it will actually pull into the landing depends on a few things.

Mainly what does your slope profile look like - ie: what kinda deflection do have - your running lines in relation to the ground. No deflection - no payload. Do you have a nice concave slope that runs out at the back end or do you have an ugly little convex roll in the middle, in front of the yarder or at the backend? Deflection is the amount of sag in the cables and it increases with distance. If the cables sag low enough and touch the ground then you're into ground lead and you won't be pulling a whole lot into the yarder (other making a trench) The more you tightline the mainline / skyline to get the cables off the ground the more potential payload you use up (cables have a safe working load - the more you tighten them the more force on them).

How far are you yarding? 100m or 500m?

Can you drag the turn to the yarder (highlead / slackline) or do you need to partially suspend or even fully suspend the turn (skyline / carriage combo)?

Some ideas....
 
Creeks and draws are nature's way of providing deflection. If you want to play with yarding capabilities and different scenarios, Oregon State University
(Forest Engineering) has a program called Loggerpc. It is simple to use. You run a profile on the ground you want to log. A profile being a straight compass line, taking slope% and measuring distance station to station. Your station locations should be where the topography changes a bit. Like going from 10% slope to 50% slope. You take this info, put it on the computer program, then are asked to choose a yarder and carriage. I know the TY70 used to be one of the yarders to choose. You run the configuration you plan to use..live skyline, standing skyline etc. and the program will run and show you the critical point or where the least amount of payload is, and the payload for each station. You can plug in intermediate supports, or move the yarder station. You might already know this, but you should try to run the profiles where it looks like the most difficult yarding will be...where the slope "roman noses" off, or where it seems too broken. Whoops, this is kind of long...that would be Oregon State University--Forest Engineering. It might be available to download for free.

I made the mistake of telling a logger about our class rigging up an intermediate support. 3 or 4 turns went over it and then it pulled over and we quit for the day. He said I should tell a crew to rig their new support the OSU way....rig it, pull it over and go home.:laugh:
 
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